iluvk9 wrote:AmericanSuprDog, I see you posted the same thread on PBF. What's that all about?
And kindly don't get snarky with me. I just find it ironic.
Pit♥Bull wrote:Joyce,iluvk9 wrote:AmericanSuprDog, I see you posted the same thread on PBF.
Are you two timing us.
Pit♥Bull wrote:You're excused since you are acting as a 'mole'.iluvk9 wrote:Bob, I go there to see who posts the exact same thing here.
I'd bet he's spamming all the boards with the same drivel.
dlynne1123 wrote:The club was not a breed love club but an all breed club, UKC. And it woulnd't change the insurance rate to have more events, it would cost more money, for judges, food, and attention spans. It would only change the profit at the end of an event. If people are committed they get a discount by preregistering. And by doing multiple pulls, shows, dogs, etc.
Maybe it was attendance but it wasn't b/c of bullies alone, it was general attendance.
UKC requirements to start a new club are hard to come by in small Maine. Attendance, initiative to try something that you may not be good at, and types of sports you want to have. If all we want to have is RAlly and Conformation we can manage, b/c its easy to find judges. You know how hard it is to find a Comp Obedience judge in Central Maine? How hard it is to become a judge? Its very hard and people are in it for fun, not always the competition. Not to mention that no one (UKC clubs) in the Southern Maine area has even heard of WP, so convincing them I want to be a member to help them diverse is laughable. A year ago this month we proposed this to a local club, and more than 5 people would have joined if they could apply for WP events, still no word. Why would I want to be part of a club if they can't support the events I want to trial in?
Obvious to say, if training with my dog started to suck I probably wouldn't do it anymore. Let alone, organize, volunteer and attend events.
furever_pit wrote:See, I feel I did answer some of your questions...
You are wondering about the working aspects of these dogs. I suggested you look places other than breed specific shows. There are lots of working dog people who couldn't care less about competing in conformation. I will never go to a show just for conformation. My dogs gets shown in the ring because there happens to be a conformation show at a working event that I am already attending.
If you want to see working dogs, go to events that draw working dog owners.
iluvk9 wrote:AmericanSuprDog, I see you posted the same thread on PBF. What's that all about?
And kindly don't get snarky with me. I just find it ironic.
Pit♥Bull wrote:You're excused since you are acting as a 'mole'.iluvk9 wrote:Bob, I go there to see who posts the exact same thing here.
I'd bet he's spamming all the boards with the same drivel.
dlynne1123 wrote:In Maine we don't have UKC WP events at all! At least that have been advertised to All Breed.
dlynne1123 wrote:I have been to non sanctioned events but none UKC in Maine. Every Weight Pull I've attended has been in CT or Very Southern Mass. And all were All Breed. Anywhere from 3 to 6 hours drive for my clients.
dlynne1123 wrote:As for ADBA, I've heard was mostly bullies. I can't find them in Mass or Maine anymore.
dlynne1123 wrote:As a trainer and a competitor, I want to offer this to clients and get the same eagerness to try. But pushing a club that has never been to one, or even interested is tough. For two years we have had only several fun pulls in Maine b/c not one club offers it. Every event has been held by motivated but not supported 'training' clubs. Theres been a couple held by the BullDoggers in Central Maine. Thats it.
dlynne1123 wrote:You tell a local club 'Hey, me and my friends do this sport called WP. You heard of it? Yeah, that sport. We want to have competitions here locally so people learning, don't have to travel to Conn. and hopefully we can get the sport more readily available up here. Yeah its a UKC sport, really! Well, we would all join your club if we could offer this to you. We offer UKC Protection/Police competitors, Rally, and Agility too! We can bring lots to your club." We've been trying for a while now. I am beginning to think its not going to happen! And we have 3,000 lbs in weight, a UKC certified cart and only have classes for fun. But, our dogs don't 'look' pretty so we aren't taken seriously.
mnp13 wrote:And again, posting on forums is not "research". The general forum population is already apt to be doing more with their dog, or at least more engaged
with outside input than the "average" owner. This forum is more "pet orientated" than some but I still think the members are well above the norm.
I have been going to dog events for the last eight years, most have been multi-breed I have never attended one that had sport events after conformation. There are not enough hours in a day to run any sport after conformation even at the small shows I have been to/competed in.
Pit♥Bull wrote:I'll just continue the "one line attacks" as I dislike trolls as well as spammers.
AmericanSuprDog wrote:A whole buncha words with (maybe) a salient point in there somewhere.
DemoDick wrote:AmericanSuprDog wrote:A whole buncha words with (maybe) a salient point in there somewhere.
Seriously, use 1/10th as many words and get to the point if you want anyone to understand the point you are trying to make.
Demo Dick
TheRedQueen wrote:DemoDick wrote:AmericanSuprDog wrote:A whole buncha words with (maybe) a salient point in there somewhere.
Seriously, use 1/10th as many words and get to the point if you want anyone to understand the point you are trying to make.
Demo Dick
I don't even read these posts anymore...they're too long, and don't get to the point. It's beyond understanding the point now, it's about wanting to waste my time reading them.
AmericanSuprDog wrote:Wow that really underscores this point in my original post:
“Is it the fault of local clubs who have failed to market themselves well enough to pull in more members? Who have failed to offer more opportunities of sporting events despite registries lack of sanctioning these? Who have failed to educate their members in the activities available? Who perpetuate a fear of failure by not embracing more participation through training?”
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