Lisa wrote:I have been reading this situations background for a while.
Lots of things, about many events, concern me.
I do not understand re homing a puppy, a "clean slate", because of perceived, future problems... regardless of the reason for the excuse... lack of experience... pit bull... terrier... inter-male... dominance... etc.
Yet, you will adopt a dog, with unknown history, KNOWING of many red flags (hyperactivity being only one) for potential problems.
I admire your apparent willingness to work on the problems that present you... but these problems are much more difficult and complex than what you gave up.
The dogs age, size and history are only part of your disadvantage. Your time, physical ability (because of upcoming surgery), changing lifestyle and inexperience are also factors.
I also don't know how you have suddenly become so "experienced" in just a few months. You have gone from arguing with your husband about the incident, to blaming the trainer for it.
The trainer may or may not have acted or re-acted appropriately. He may or may not have triggered the incident. The fact remains, any person on the street could have done something to trigger this. The dog has shown that their stress, state of mind (excitement), past, lack of experience, can have this reaction. Please understand, this will NOT be an "isolated incident", without some serious work, very soon.
Had this been any other individual (being bitten) it may have wound up on the news. And for some, reading it in the paper, it would either be the "pit bull"s fault, the owners fault (who should be in control), or the victims fault. The reason is irrelevant. You must manage the risk of this problem until you can properly evaluate and fix it. Both tho protect the pit bulls... and the victim... now that you know there is an issue.
There are very few excuses for a bite. Even if the trainer approached incorrectly, if the dog was not unnecessarily pressured, startled, or exceptionally fearful, there are few excuses. Bites are not a "freak" thing. If a dog is that fearfully reactive, you should have had signs. It is more likely that the dogs hyperactivity will be improved with exercise, once you can walk the dog under control. And her reactivity probably stems from her having little or no confidence in whoever is handling her because of your lack of control.
Answer? Training, exercise, and respect (control)... in any environment, in any distraction. At home is not enough, unless the dog never leaves the house. Impractical... and no fun.
A halti is NOT a recommended piece of equipment for a strong, excitable dog. The first cervical (neck) vertebrae is very susceptible to injury both because of lack of muscle in that area, the mechanics of an incorrect use of this collar, and the excitement level of the dog.
I have used it very successfully as a short term training aid for control and guiding of fearful issues in sensitive dogs who cannot handle (physically or mentally) a collar correction. But it is not usually successful, if not dangerous, if not used properly. Although I have had positive results, and no injuries, I don't recommend it. I have not needed to use one in over 10 years.
I would love to get together with Charles' club and spend a day training. Maybe we can arrange something after the Bullympics.
Its too bad you are so far from me and you cant drive. I don't know any of the trainers in your area. I would be interested in seeing how you progress with this problem.
Lisa wrote:I also don't know how you have suddenly become so "experienced" in just a few months.
Lisa wrote:If a dog is that fearfully reactive, you should have had signs.
Lisa wrote:And her reactivity probably stems from her having little or no confidence in whoever is handling her because of your lack of control.
anissa wrote:Lisa wrote:If a dog is that fearfully reactive, you should have had signs.
Jaida was not fearful whatsoever. She is very reactive though, but in an excited way and I did see the signs.
mnp13 wrote:and to go completely off topic - I had a friend living in the US who is a Dutch citizen. She did not have a Dutch driver's license. Because she had been in NY for over six months she was eligible to take the NYS driving test. You do not need a Social Security card or citizenship to have a NYS drivers license.
check out this link:
http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/license.htm#driversmoving
anissa wrote:http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/license.htm#driversfromothernations
I do need a social security card to get my drivers permit. My Canadian license has not been valid for over 12 months, so Id need to start from the bottom.
How did she manage to get a NYS license without having a dutch license or a social?
If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you must provide a letter or form SSA-L676 from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) that states that you are not eligible. The SSA Letter or form must have been issued no more than 30 days before the date of your application. You must also show the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) documents that the SSA used to determine that you are not eligible for a Social Security Card.
anissa wrote:How did she manage to get a NYS license without having a dutch license or a social?
Romanwild wrote:Good luck I know how you Canadians drive!
cheekymunkee wrote:If you are not eligible for a Social Security Card, you must provide a letter or form SSA-L676 from the US Social Security Administration (SSA) that states that you are not eligible. The SSA Letter or form must have been issued no more than 30 days before the date of your application. You must also show the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) documents that the SSA used to determine that you are not eligible for a Social Security Card.
mnp13 wrote:She filed the papers that said she didn't have a SS#, got her permit and then took the driving test. It's all just paperwork.
You must also show the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) documents that the SSA used to determine that you are not eligible for a Social Security Card.
anissa wrote:Based on the information and advice I was given regarding owning 2 males, especially being as inexperienced as I was, I made the decision to rehome the pup. It wasnt an easy decision, and shouldnt be made out to sound like it was. I considered the advice by someone who I greatly respect and who's experience and advice is greatly appreciated by many on this forum as well.Lisa wrote:I also don't know how you have suddenly become so "experienced" in just a few months.
I havent claimed to be 'experienced' whatsoever. Infact, if the word 'experience' has ever been written or spoken by me, it's either been: INexperience or LITTLE experience.
We rehomed Brock for a couple of different reasons. Mostly because we were advised that having 2 males in the home might become a problem down the road. We didnt want to chance aggresion being so unexperienced with the breed (at the time), so we decided to rehome him with the inlaws as an only dog.
Also, I dont solely blame the trainer for the incident. Her sneaking up on Jaida was just one of many things that went wrong.
The trainer realized that we were having some problems and came over to speak to us, as soon as she went to acknowledge Jaida.. Jaida lunged up and BIT HER
The trainer came over, sort of leaned over to acknowledge Jaida, and she lunged up (jumped, feet off the ground) and bit her.
She got close enough to one dog and lunged at it and nipped its snout. She got close enough to a dog behind us and went for its leg.
this is a huge red flag. that many homes in a short time.. you could have stopped the entire adoption upon hearing of this.
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