lipshipsattitude wrote:I dont see what the big freakin deal is. YES, my dog does not respond to the prong collar. I thought it was due to me not knowing how to use it so THAT is why I went to a trainer to have it fitted and to show me how to use it. She DOES NOT RESPOND plus I came to the conclusion that prong collars are for lazy peole who dont want to take the time out to train their dogs. THAT is why we have taken three obediance classes, she now knows how to walk properly.
YES I have used the gentle leader when she was younger and for when we are in large crowds, its adds security but we havnt used it for months.
I just feel that when we are running on the beach or hiking up hills it would be more comfertable for Rory to have a harness while we are making quick turns or hauling fanny up a hill. I was trying to think of her comfort THATS ALL.
So now that I have explained myself please, feel free to pick apart my response and attempt to make me feel like a inadequate dog owner.
Karen wrote:lipshipsattitude wrote:I dont see what the big freakin deal is. YES, my dog does not respond to the prong collar. I thought it was due to me not knowing how to use it so THAT is why I went to a trainer to have it fitted and to show me how to use it. She DOES NOT RESPOND plus I came to the conclusion that prong collars are for lazy peole who dont want to take the time out to train their dogs. THAT is why we have taken three obediance classes, she now knows how to walk properly.
YES I have used the gentle leader when she was younger and for when we are in large crowds, its adds security but we havnt used it for months.
I just feel that when we are running on the beach or hiking up hills it would be more comfertable for Rory to have a harness while we are making quick turns or hauling fanny up a hill. I was trying to think of her comfort THATS ALL.
So now that I have explained myself please, feel free to pick apart my response and attempt to make me feel like a inadequate dog owner.
Well if you went to 3 whole obedience classes and she knows how to walk properly why do you need a harness? A flat buckle collar should be fine. Am I missing something here?
As to the lazy remark, puhleeze. Dilly is in a prong frequently and it is covered by a bandana and now that her stylin pink baseball cap with the rhinestones and her pink aviator Doggles with the rhinestone trim will be getting here shortly, I dare anyone that sees her to remember a prong under the matching pink bandana. Why does she wear a prong? Because my fat old lady elbows and shoulder are telling me they remember getting run over and stepped on by that Draft mare in 2003. The falls off the young stuff and fractured things from the 80's aren't helping either.
rockermom wrote:I went through 3 1/2 obedience classes of different types one using no treats and one using treats. As Rocky matures he seems to want to go off and sniff more. And of course he has gotten stronger. I just dont want him to pull at all and I too do not want him to be pulled by the neck.
rockermom wrote:I went through 3 1/2 obedience classes of different types one using no treats and one using treats. As Rocky matures he seems to want to go off and sniff more. And of course he has gotten stronger. I just dont want him to pull at all and I too do not want him to be pulled by the neck. Anyway who the frig cares if I use a harness or not. THe only place I have been questioned about why I use one, is here. Why is everyone questioning her obedience with her dog? Yes she got a bit defensive but I kind of dont blame her since ya cant ask about a harness without getting the old get your dog to behave stuff. I want to use a harness cause I like to not just to get dog to behave. Now back to the thread. Lips did you find a harness you like yet? Hows it going? If not go to Walmart. They have a no pull harness for a fraction of the cost of petsmarts or Sporne. It is similar to sporne except the collar part does not wear like a collar it goes more around the upper chest. The brand is yuppie puppy. I have a size medium 12"-17" necks. And still have a little adjustable room. Rocky's neck is probably 16" he has a thin head and neck. A large would swim on him. Interestingly I just went to find a picture of it for you guess who actually makes it Sporn. Well anyway I think it was 7.00 cant find it on walmart website.
Karen wrote:FYI I think if you're using those no pull harnesses you are abusing your dog. You you read that ABUSE. They CONTROL the dog by putting pressure under the armpit and it is sensitive and thin skinned under there. Have you seen what those do to a dog? Really looked? I have seen dogs with raw oozing places from those harnesees. Sure they work why wouldn't they/ If you truly were hurt to the point of redness and oozing sores then you damn well won't pull!
Karen wrote:rockermom wrote:I went through 3 1/2 obedience classes of different types one using no treats and one using treats. As Rocky matures he seems to want to go off and sniff more. And of course he has gotten stronger. I just dont want him to pull at all and I too do not want him to be pulled by the neck. Anyway who the frig cares if I use a harness or not. THe only place I have been questioned about why I use one, is here. Why is everyone questioning her obedience with her dog? Yes she got a bit defensive but I kind of dont blame her since ya cant ask about a harness without getting the old get your dog to behave stuff. I want to use a harness cause I like to not just to get dog to behave. Now back to the thread. Lips did you find a harness you like yet? Hows it going? If not go to Walmart. They have a no pull harness for a fraction of the cost of petsmarts or Sporne. It is similar to sporne except the collar part does not wear like a collar it goes more around the upper chest. The brand is yuppie puppy. I have a size medium 12"-17" necks. And still have a little adjustable room. Rocky's neck is probably 16" he has a thin head and neck. A large would swim on him. Interestingly I just went to find a picture of it for you guess who actually makes it Sporn. Well anyway I think it was 7.00 cant find it on walmart website.
FYI I think if you're using those no pull harnesses you are abusing your dog. You you read that ABUSE. They CONTROL the dog by putting pressure under the armpit and it is sensitive and thin skinned under there. Have you seen what those do to a dog? Really looked? I have seen dogs with raw oozing places from those harnesees. Sure they work why wouldn't they/ If you truly were hurt to the point of redness and oozing sores then you damn well won't pull!
pitbullmamaliz wrote:Karen wrote:FYI I think if you're using those no pull harnesses you are abusing your dog. You you read that ABUSE. They CONTROL the dog by putting pressure under the armpit and it is sensitive and thin skinned under there. Have you seen what those do to a dog? Really looked? I have seen dogs with raw oozing places from those harnesees. Sure they work why wouldn't they/ If you truly were hurt to the point of redness and oozing sores then you damn well won't pull!
Wow - that seems excessive.
Sue wrote:pitbullmamaliz wrote:Karen wrote:FYI I think if you're using those no pull harnesses you are abusing your dog. You you read that ABUSE. They CONTROL the dog by putting pressure under the armpit and it is sensitive and thin skinned under there. Have you seen what those do to a dog? Really looked? I have seen dogs with raw oozing places from those harnesees. Sure they work why wouldn't they/ If you truly were hurt to the point of redness and oozing sores then you damn well won't pull!
Wow - that seems excessive.
Just a bit
My Pepper wears a harness every single day. He was tied to a dog house for 5 years on a choke chain. He can NOT be leashed on his collar alone since his throat is damaged and very sensitive.
lipshipsattitude wrote:Since some of you didnt read the whoel way through I'll repeat myself.
I didnt want a harness to control or stop Rory from pulling. I wanted one becuase it is more comfertable for her when we are jogginh, walking the beach, the dunes, or hiking. I plan on getting her used to a bike soon, who uses a collar while riding a bike?
I got a regular harness last night and when we walked the dunes this morning she LOVED it! We started to scale a huge dune and she was matching my pace, I gave her the go ahed to take off OH MAN was she excited. She hauled lil pittie butt up that hill and made my climb so much easier, haha! She was SO excited it was great.
Its just nice to be able to jog on the beach without seeing her collar bouning around from me holding the leash and jogging too. She was stoked, she dosnt pull but she seemed happy!
lipshipsattitude wrote: didnt want a harness to control or stop Rory from pulling. I wanted one becuase it is more comfertable for her when we are jogginh, walking the beach, the dunes, or hiking. I plan on getting her used to a bike soon, who uses a collar while riding a bike?
Karen wrote:FYI I think if you're using those no pull harnesses you are abusing your dog. You you read that ABUSE. They CONTROL the dog by putting pressure under the armpit and it is sensitive and thin skinned under there. Have you seen what those do to a dog? Really looked? I have seen dogs with raw oozing places from those harnesees. Sure they work why wouldn't they/ If you truly were hurt to the point of redness and oozing sores then you damn well won't pull!
Marinepits wrote:Karen wrote:FYI I think if you're using those no pull harnesses you are abusing your dog. You you read that ABUSE. They CONTROL the dog by putting pressure under the armpit and it is sensitive and thin skinned under there. Have you seen what those do to a dog? Really looked? I have seen dogs with raw oozing places from those harnesees. Sure they work why wouldn't they/ If you truly were hurt to the point of redness and oozing sores then you damn well won't pull!
While I don't find a well-fitting padded harness to be abusive, I worked at a vet as a groomer for a long time and had more than a few dogs come in with huge mats in their pits and rub marks across their chests and bellies from ill-fitting harnesses. Most of these dogs had terrible sores after I removed the mats and the owners always got a good lecture from me about proper harness wear.
a-bull wrote:Marinepits wrote:While I don't find a well-fitting padded harness to be abusive, I worked at a vet as a groomer for a long time and had more than a few dogs come in with huge mats in their pits and rub marks across their chests and bellies from ill-fitting harnesses. Most of these dogs had terrible sores after I removed the mats and the owners always got a good lecture from me about proper harness wear.
I believe that, because like anything else, people don't always use them right.
I would think people bothering to have their pets professionally groomed, probably mean well but were just clueless, don't you think?
Or did you think they were abusing their pets?
Karen wrote:FYI I think if you're using those no pull harnesses you are abusing your dog. You you read that ABUSE. They CONTROL the dog by putting pressure under the armpit and it is sensitive and thin skinned under there. Have you seen what those do to a dog? Really looked? I have seen dogs with raw oozing places from those harnesees. Sure they work why wouldn't they/ If you truly were hurt to the point of redness and oozing sores then you damn well won't pull!
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