katiek0417 wrote:Have you tried a lighter leash...
What methods have you used to train him not to pull?
Did you praise him as he was heeling beside you?
What people forget in training a dog to walk on the leash, is that it's great to give the corrections, but you actually have to reward also for doing it right....
Marinepits wrote:Yup, we use food and toys, but I'm trying to not make him dependent on those -- I want him to listen and do the actual command.
He does "watch me" very well for all other commands except walking.
I've attempted to stop and make him stop with me, but we're pretty evenly matched weight-wise, so I end up on my butt if he's REALLY determined.
Maybe I'll just use a 2 x 4 to get his attention.....
I might have to start him on weight pull, the booger.
Marinepits wrote:Yup, we use food and toys, but I'm trying to not make him dependent on those -- I want him to listen and do the actual command.
He does "watch me" very well for all other commands except walking.
I've attempted to stop and make him stop with me, but we're pretty evenly matched weight-wise, so I end up on my butt if he's REALLY determined.
Maybe I'll just use a 2 x 4 to get his attention.....
I might have to start him on weight pull, the booger.
a-bull wrote:Marinepits wrote:Yup, we use food and toys, but I'm trying to not make him dependent on those -- I want him to listen and do the actual command.
He does "watch me" very well for all other commands except walking.
I've attempted to stop and make him stop with me, but we're pretty evenly matched weight-wise, so I end up on my butt if he's REALLY determined.
Maybe I'll just use a 2 x 4 to get his attention.....
I might have to start him on weight pull, the booger.
The only thing about not using food or toys is you have to start somewhere.
To train a certain behavior, you should use the toy or food every time---ye ol' positive reinforcement. Once the behavior is solid, you drop back to the ocassional toy or food (whichever one you choose), to implement that "intermittent reinforcement" we mentioned in another thread. The end result should be a dog that will perform the command everytime, because he's anticipating a reward, but not knowing when it will come. Eventually you'll find you don't need to rely on the toy or food.
Ya know, the same kind of reinforcement that creates gamblers, .
I agree totally....you should be using food, toys, whatever until he gets it perfect. A prong can then be used to "proof." (I don't like to use them to train)...Just b/c you start with treats/toys/whatever doesn't mean you ALWAYS have to use them.
He heeled so well without a leash... when you walk do you keep a loose leash or a tight one? When you pull tight, he will pull forward.
Are you sure you had a correctly fitting, correct size prong on him?
What a brat LOL.... Ok Try this Run him until he is stinkin tired, and then walk him and work on the healing. Pick a method like the prong at this point and stick with it be consistent and try tp do it at least 3X per day at first for very short walks then gradually go longer
The only thing about not using food or toys is you have to start somewhere.
To train a certain behavior, you should use the toy or food every time---ye ol' positive reinforcement. Once the behavior is solid, you drop back to the ocassional toy or food (whichever one you choose), to implement that "intermittent reinforcement" we mentioned in another thread. The end result should be a dog that will perform the command everytime, because he's anticipating a reward, but not knowing when it will come. Eventually you'll find you don't need to rely on the toy or food.
Ya know, the same kind of reinforcement that creates gamblers, .
You MUST go to a seminar with Chris.
Marinepits wrote:He heeled so well without a leash... when you walk do you keep a loose leash or a tight one? When you pull tight, he will pull forward.
No such thing as a loose leash with Mac. He'll charge right to the end and pull automatically.
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