It's just something I could never wrap my mind around.
realpitbull wrote:I guess the "extreme aggression" thing threw me.
That's like asking BC people, "Why rescue the prey-driven dogs that like to herd people if there are atypical, non-drivey dogs available??"
satanscheerleader wrote:Although shyness is not the preferable temperment, I wouldn't relate it to aggression. There are alot of shy dogs that have never shown aggression over being shy, my Venus being one of them. In fact, most dogs I know that have become aggressive and/or bitten weren't shy at all. It was usually cases or redirection, dominance issues, just plain bad wiring and/or extreme mishandling. A seemingly confident outgoing dog can be aggressive just as much as a fearfull one but for different reasons. That being said, I definitely understand why a shy dog wouldn't be used in a breeding program and even understand why one might be passed up in a full rescue program. If you had a slew of dogs to choose from of course you are going to choose the best of the best since there is only so much space. I even understand why some rescues will pass up placing a dog that is over the top animal aggressive. They are often just to much for the average pet home to handle responsibley which is exactly where these rescue dogs end up. Most of them don't go into homes of working dog people who could handle such a dog.
Personally I think people are NUTS who even approach a strange dog in their crate. It is a disaster waiting to happen.
Perhaps with any other breeds Michelle but not with bulldogs.I watch closely what a dog does in a crate when I take a first look at it (speaking of bulldogs only here).Fish eyes, tail tucked, rear down, ears back, lunging and growling are a first indicator of problems.
With the exception of me and Demo, Connor will injure anyone who sticks their fingers in his crate. He's been like that since day one. Crate aggression is not unheard of in any breed. The dog knows there is no way out if you try to hurt it. The best defense is a good offense, so they figure if they keep you away they are safe.
In rescues simply there aren't enough resources to work for months and months on a problem dog.It is not fair to dogs that can do fine after a year of work and who lived a hell of a life before we meet them but what to do?
My comments were not in relation to dogs being crate aggressive due to fear.
I recently had a discussion about this on another forum. It makes me crazy when I hear about the 'hard luck' cases in rescue where they are spending hundreds and hundreds on one sick, hurt, or problematic dog while 100 other dogs get put to sleep that didn't need 1/4 of that care
Red wrote:But where do you think the aggression come from? In my opinion the dog might perceive a certain situation as a threat.Dogs that are comfortable with people around them, especially pit bulls, don't show aggression when crated.
Personally I don't think Connor would bite if you stuck your fingers in the crate, not that I would let anyone test that. Demo however is of the opinion that he would, so I try to defer tot hat since he is Demo's dog.)
I don't know if Connor was thought to do this, for some odd reasons, but it is certainly a "uh-oh" to see a crated pit bull to react that way.
That trick would cost a pit bull its life if it was in a shelter or rescue.
Emi wrote:Yes, and oops forgot to say that Carlos said that he's a great dog , great temperment, just he didn't do well in crates, i have to much on my mind .. forgot to add that ...my mind is just all over the place today ...
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