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Postby realpitbull » June 24th, 2006, 7:59 am

mnp13 wrote:I ... am ... not ... doing ... clicker ... training ...

I am doing marker training. what is the difference? I've met more than my share of "clicker nazis", I've never met someone who does "marker trainig' who is nearly that rabid.

Yes, it's semanitcs... but they are important semantics!!!


Hehehehe! Ok! :wink:
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Postby rockermom » June 24th, 2006, 10:12 am

Oh cool Im going to start this too. Since Rocky will probably do agility for fun this summer. Also he is learning some tricks and I want to teach him to close the screen door behind him. So I started by just using my hand as a marker now am using a coffe can lid and soon will start a pole. I also use a clicker but since it was not how I started training and Rocky is super smart I sometimes I only need a click one time and he knows that means he did what I wanted then I switch to a yes!! This happened because I was so clicker stupid that half the time I screwed up and clicked at the wrong moment. I just never became clicker savvy. But Clicker training and shaping was so much fun for Rocky. Lips I have a great article on shaping you may be interested to read. However my computer crashed so I dont have it saved I need to see if my dad still has the file.
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Postby rockermom » June 24th, 2006, 10:22 am

Ok I found the files for articles from clean run mag you may all be interested. However I dont know how or is there a way to post a pdf file? Or actually can I since it is a copy of pages from an agility magazine?
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Postby mnp13 » June 24th, 2006, 11:26 am

You can post a PDF file by linking to it.
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Postby rockermom » June 24th, 2006, 1:49 pm

Im still not sure how to post it. the file is saved on my computer.
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Postby mnp13 » June 27th, 2006, 1:55 pm

Last night, I put the paint stirrer that I have been using as a touch object across the room and Ruby went nuts running back and forth. She actually picked it up in frusteration at one point. Woo Hoo!

She spent most of the time barking at me from across the room trying to figure out how to get the pez dispenser (me) to work.
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Postby Pitcrew » July 4th, 2006, 9:52 pm

So I take it you are having fun with your new training project? :clap:

I think your DOGS did much better than you expected! Poor Riggs and Ruby! I think they gave in to the method quicker than you! TALK ABOUT TRAINING PIT BULLS! :shock:

How are things going? Be honest or I will ask Demo!
Ready for more homework?

Not so bad huh? I think you will like Gary though, please be open enough to check him out. He uses the term "clicker" but he is very tallented and progressive... not militant. Has very good tricks to help with behavioral problems too.

I would like to get together and work on some methods I want to try for weight pulling. I am going to use it with Jamie but I would like to see how it improves dogs who already have a pulling history. Its not physical conditioning... its a training (understanding and skill) conditioning.
I would like to see what kind of improvement you have by the Bull-ympics.
It is a method difficult to execute alone... you need a helper who understands what to do. Maybe if we can get a few people together we can train as a group (hesitate to use the word "club"). Maybe call it a training PARTY! :D

What do you think?
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Postby mnp13 » July 5th, 2006, 12:38 pm

anything involving the word "party" is fine with me!
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Postby Hoyden » July 5th, 2006, 2:52 pm

rockermom wrote: Also he is learning some tricks and I want to teach him to close the screen door behind him. So I started by just using my hand as a marker now am using a coffe can lid and soon will start a pole.


Don't laugh, but I got really irritated with my dogs opening the bathroom door and barging in when I am on the throne.

So I taught them to close the door.

I took a piece of American cheese, broke it into eight pieces and licked one piece, sticking it to the door at nose level.

Then I called Birdie over and showed her the cheese, which she promptly set to licking to get it off the door. As soon as the KA-CLICK from the door latching sounded, I "marked" it with my "aw roight" and fed her another piece of cheese.

Then repeated 3 more times, until I had no cheese.

I only had to do this a few times and they got the picture. CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR!

(And before you tell ME to close the bathroom door, Petey can open door knobs, he bites them, puts teeth dents in them and turns his head. Birdie hasn't quite gotten that yet, so she goes and gets Petey to do it for her!)
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Postby Pitcrew » July 5th, 2006, 7:27 pm

See if Charles wants to come.

We can have a PULL Party! :clap:

I have an agility trial fri., sat., and sunday, but I should be done mid to late afternoon.

You?
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Postby mnp13 » July 5th, 2006, 7:29 pm

I'm training at Dee's on Monday, so Sunday is out (too much driving...)
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Postby Pitcrew » July 5th, 2006, 7:38 pm

Will you be talkin to Charles? Ask him whats good for him... and Demo too.
Saturday late afternoon 4-5ish would be good for me.
I will have a better idea friday what time I will be done saturday... it could be even earlier.
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Postby rockermom » July 5th, 2006, 8:27 pm

Hoyden wrote:
rockermom wrote: Also he is learning some tricks and I want to teach him to close the screen door behind him. So I started by just using my hand as a marker now am using a coffe can lid and soon will start a pole.


Don't laugh, but I got really irritated with my dogs opening the bathroom door and barging in when I am on the throne.

So I taught them to close the door.

I took a piece of American cheese, broke it into eight pieces and licked one piece, sticking it to the door at nose level.

Then I called Birdie over and showed her the cheese, which she promptly set to licking to get it off the door. As soon as the KA-CLICK from the door latching sounded, I "marked" it with my "aw roight" and fed her another piece of cheese.

Then repeated 3 more times, until I had no cheese.

I only had to do this a few times and they got the picture. CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR!

(And before you tell ME to close the bathroom door, Petey can open door knobs, he bites them, puts teeth dents in them and turns his head. Birdie hasn't quite gotten that yet, so she goes and gets Petey to do it for her!)


Im not laughing. I love the idea. Rocky will do about anything for food. I still have not figured how to post a PDF.
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Postby mnp13 » July 5th, 2006, 8:37 pm

[url]http://www.YourWebsite.com/PDFname.pdf[/url]
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Postby rockermom » July 5th, 2006, 8:40 pm

Oh I have to post it to a website first? The file is on my computer.
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Postby mnp13 » July 5th, 2006, 8:47 pm

rockermom wrote:Oh I have to post it to a website first? The file is on my computer.


yes, just like images, the file has to be hosted online somewhere.
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