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Postby rockermom » June 20th, 2006, 10:55 am

When it comes to command Come!! Rocky can be real stubborn. Especially in the house if he is in another room or laying down I can call him and he can completely ignore and or come close look at me like, "you dont have any food"and walk away. However I recently discoverd that if I say come here now! very firmly saying NOW! he comes about every time. This includes fetch bring it to me NOW! since he rarely brings the fetched item. when I say the NOW! he brings it.
Why does he not come to the nice high pitch come. Is it ok to use NOW! if that is what works? Or should I convert it to come somehow?
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Postby mnp13 » June 20th, 2006, 11:37 am

I'd guess the "NOW" is more dominance than a "command"

Now is not the command, "come" is the command, and you probably need to brush up on that more.
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Postby katiek0417 » June 20th, 2006, 11:40 am

I've been having the same problem with Sacha...and this is a dog with very nice obedience. I have started to make her wear a leash around the house. if she doesn't come, I go get her, grab the end of the leash, and pull her to wherever I wanted her to be in the first place, and make her sit in front of me (exactly as if she had come). She's learning real fast that she doesn't get to make the decisions on when to come...
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Postby mnp13 » June 20th, 2006, 11:45 am

I've been helping my chiropractor with his dog (mostly during conversation at appointments.) They are having a lot of trouble getting their poo dog to come when called.

I suggested that they stop feeding him at meal times and only feed him when he comes when he's called. His wife is a full time mother, so she's home all day and can keep a treat pouch with her and feed him throughout the day.

You may want to try that.
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Postby rockermom » June 20th, 2006, 12:22 pm

mnp13 wrote:I've been helping my chiropractor with his dog (mostly during conversation at appointments.) They are having a lot of trouble getting their poo dog to come when called.

I suggested that they stop feeding him at meal times and only feed him when he comes when he's called. His wife is a full time mother, so she's home all day and can keep a treat pouch with her and feed him throughout the day.

You may want to try that.


Interesting idea, however rocky is pretty set on schedules so not sure I want to mess with feeding time. Im full time at home to so I should just get in the habit of carrying treats in my pocket. See Rocky is a smart butt. If I put a leash on him he knows its work time and will come every time. Same goes for seeing treat bag hanging from me. He is getting much better since I have been working this over the past few days and at least he comes when I say now! Just seems I need to do the now! too often. He is definately food motivated. Maybe I need a special treat only just for when he does come.
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Postby cheekymunkee » June 20th, 2006, 12:58 pm

Munkee has this "game" he plays with the word now. I'll call him & he takes a couple of steps & looks at me. I call him again, he puts his head down & waits................I say "Munkee get your ass in this house NOW" and as SOON as he hears the word NOW he flies in to the house. He is the biggest dork.................
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Postby katiek0417 » June 20th, 2006, 12:59 pm

rockermom wrote:Im full time at home to so I should just get in the habit of carrying treats in my pocket. See Rocky is a smart butt. If I put a leash on him he knows its work time and will come every time. Same goes for seeing treat bag hanging from me.


I would definitely try treats in the pocket....

If the leash is on ALL the time, then they don't become leash smart (same idea as with training collars). Also, what if you try a different type of leash, maybe a horse lead, or chain leash...one that is heavier and might be more of a pain for him to wear all the time? Currently, if Sacha is out of the kennel, she has a leash on...the only time she doesn't have a leash hanging off of her is when she's in the kennel....
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Postby lipshipsattitude » June 20th, 2006, 3:42 pm

When Rory started to regress in her training I would take her to a gated area, like a school that wasnt in session and let her roam (she likes to just sniff) and I would randomely call her to me and reward her with a treat when she did. We did this for about a week and then moved to the off leash beach where there was more distractions and tried the same thing. The key is you dont want to call them several times, you want them to come after no more then two times of you saying it. Also never call your dog to you to reprimand or make her go home. When we were at the beach and she was playing iwth another dog and wouldnt come I'd calmly walk over to here, grab her collar and put her back on the leash for a while. If she was really stubborn we'd just leave!
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Postby realpitbull » June 20th, 2006, 3:51 pm

For you guys with the recall-challenged pups, you may want to check out
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Postby mnp13 » June 20th, 2006, 4:03 pm

lipshipsattitude wrote: When we were at the beach and she was playing iwth another dog and wouldnt come I'd calmly walk over to here, grab her collar and put her back on the leash for a while. If she was really stubborn we'd just leave!


And to go off topic....

Please don't let your dog play with other dogs off leash, especially in an unenclosed area like a beach, and especially without a 150% solid recall. It is incredibly irresponsible.
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Postby lipshipsattitude » June 20th, 2006, 5:40 pm

mnp13,
I totally agree, I should have mentioned that my sis, her neightbor and I meet once a week with our dogs at the beach in the early am. We used to jog but since I got Rory I made them bring their dogs too. They know eachother very well. All together we have two pittes, a dobie, and a lab. We walk all the way to the end and let them go to town. It's helpful for us to train them and exercise ourselves, ha ha! We even had a lady ask us if she could join but I dont think her cocker spaniel woulda lasted to long, plus her lil dog was a meany and threw off the whole vibe
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Postby Maryellen » June 20th, 2006, 7:00 pm

while socialization around other dogs to learn how to behave and not be a snot is one thing, to allow a pitbull to be off leash in an unfenced in area is asking for trouble. your dog is 18 months old, some dogs turn on between 9 months and 3 years. all it takes is a tiff between one of your friends dogs and her for her to finish what the other dog started, then you will be blamed, your dog will be in a heap of trouble for being offleash and being a pit, and its just a bad egg waiting to hatch.. while i understand you say you know your dog, in reality as far as her genetics you dont, she could become DA at any moment.. letting her play offleash in an unfenced area is irresponsible . if you want to continue socializing her, do it in a fenced in yard like a backyard or a tennis court, and keep it to just her and a male dog. 4 dogs is too much asking for something to happen...

I totally agree, I should have mentioned that my sis, her neightbor and I meet once a week with our dogs at the beach in the early am. We used to jog but since I got Rory I made them bring their dogs too. They know eachother very well. All together we have two pittes, a dobie, and a lab. We walk all the way to the end and let them go to town. It's helpful for us to train them and exercise ourselves, ha ha! We even had a lady ask us if she could join but I dont think her cocker spaniel woulda lasted to long, plus her lil dog was a meany and threw off the whole vib
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Postby lipshipsattitude » June 20th, 2006, 7:15 pm

I'm not ignorant to the temprement of the breed, thank you for your input.
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Postby mnp13 » June 20th, 2006, 8:19 pm

Actually, you brought up the exact reason that you shouldn't do it...

That woman with the Cocker Spaniel with the "bad vibes", what if she was the type to let her dog run off leash (as many people do)? that dog would have probably charged up to your dogs, could you have called your dog off?

If the obedience on your dog was rock solid that would be one thing, but letting a dog run off leash when it doesn't have good obedience? Accident waiting to happen.

I don't worry about my dogs all that much, because I know them. It is the other dogs that you can't control.
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Postby katiek0417 » June 20th, 2006, 8:21 pm

The dog that I dogsat for, Rusty (the pit) was male dog aggressive b/c at 9 months he was attacked by another dog...one he knew and had previously gotten along with...

I feel that we all try to urge each other to be safe rather than sorry....

I, personally, do not let my dogs play with any other dogs, except each other. It is the only way I can be 110% sure that nothing will happen....
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Postby Maryellen » June 20th, 2006, 8:44 pm

i never once said you were ignorant.
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Postby cheekymunkee » June 20th, 2006, 8:59 pm

lipshipsattitude wrote:I'm not ignorant to the temprement of the breed, thank you for your input.


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Postby Purple » June 20th, 2006, 9:10 pm

I'll play a game with Hopscotch. She is in a sit stay, waiting for her come command. I'll say words that sound like come, like cow, cowabunga, crow, nad some other random words. By the time I say come, she is shaking with anticipation, and practically bowls me over as she gets into her sit..
We have a mini celebration, a few treats, and play the game all over again. She's having fun and learning a solid recall.
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Postby Marinepits » June 20th, 2006, 9:22 pm

That sounds like fun, V!

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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 20th, 2006, 10:19 pm

:clap: Those sound like such fun games!!! :clap:
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