a-bull wrote:gotcha . . . I got confused because your last sentence said you didn't think an e-collar was any different than any othe compulsion training when used properly . . . or are you saying a vibrating collar is different from a shock collar, thus you don't consider the vibrating collar compulsion and you do the shock?
Or am I just being too dang blonde??
I don't know how Michelle feels on the topic, but this is MY opinion.
I use the e-collar on Sacha for corrections. When I have her on leash, the leash is clipped to her pinch collar. If she acts "stupid" she gets a correction using the pinch collar. Doing things off-leash is harder. When she is off-leash and acts "stupid" I give her a correction using the e-collar. She is very sensitive, so I can always keep my settings very low on her. The correction consists of a low-intensity shock (I've tested it on my hand).
On the other hand, the vibrate function is not compulsion. I use it to get her attention when she is too far to hear me. It mainly means: come to me, and heel...This comes in very handy if we are at the dog beach or dog part (with lots of people and lots of other dogs)...