amazincc wrote:IMO, it's a LOT to ask of her when she can hear/watch you play w/Dar, right in front of her nose.
Is she that vocal when they're both crated, or just when you interact w/Dar?
ArtGypsy wrote:amazincc wrote:IMO, it's a LOT to ask of her when she can hear/watch you play w/Dar, right in front of her nose.
Is she that vocal when they're both crated, or just when you interact w/Dar?
Just when he plays.
SHE FREAKS out....
othewise, she pretty much WHINES every single second....
Anything you do to get rid of behavior you don't want will fall into one of the following
eight methods. The first four are the 'bad fairies,' the methods that have neither
kindness nor special efficacy to recommend them. The second four are the 'good
fairies,' the approaches that involve positive reinforcement and some understanding of
behavior, and that are highly likely to work. This material, specially adapted for the show
dog owner, is based on Chapter 4 of Don't Shoot the Dog! By Karen Pryor.
Method 1. Shoot the animal.
This definitely works. Get rid of the animal, by whatever means, and you will never have
to deal with that particular behavior from that particular subject again. Method One is a
common solution, in the dog show world, to a dog that "won't show." Give the dog away
and buy a new and more expensive dog.
Method 2. Punishment.
Everybody's favorite, in spite of the fact that it almost never really works. In the show
ring leash jerks are the commonest punishment (euphemistically called 'corrections') but
I have also seen dogs stepped on, yanked off their feet, kneed in the ribs, and earpinched
for not paying attention, for failure to obey a command, and for misbehavior
such as growling at the handler. Punishment does not improve a show dog's attitude.
Method 3. Negative reinforcement.
This does not mean doing something negative to the dog when it makes a mistake: it
means removing something negative when the dog does something right. For example,
during gaiting and stacking in the show ring many handlers hold the leash high over the
dog's head, dragging the dog upward. An appropriate use of negative reinforcement
would be to slacken the leash whenever the dog holds its head high voluntarily.
Method 4. Extinction.
Letting the behavior go away by itself. For example, playfulness in a puppy, and
overexcitement in any dog making its first trip into the show ring, will go away with or
without training, as the dog matures and becomes accustomed to the show
environment. Clicking for calmness, or clicker training specific behaviors such as
focusing on a target, can speed the process of desensitization and help extinguish
overreactions.
Method 5. Train an incompatible behavior.
The dog sniffs the ground all the time in the ring? Click it for keeping its nose in the air
for two steps, then three, then five, then a ring length, then longer and longer times. The
dog is being paid to keep its head up; it cannot do that, and sniff the ground at the same
time. Eventually just putting on a show collar and lead can become a cue for "Keep your
nose off the ground." Training an incompatible behavior-and paying for it, with the treats
one is allowed to carry in the show ring-is much more effective than punishing the sniff
(which encourages the dog to try to sneak in sniffs when you're not looking) or than the
physical intervention of hauling the dog's head into the air by leash, which will give you
a sore arm by the end of the day.
Method 6: Put the behavior on cue. (Then you almost never give the cue.) This is an
elegant way of getting rid of unwanted behavior, but so counterintuitive most people just
can't bring themselves to try it. Click the behavior; get the dog offering it for the click.
Add a cue. Reinforce the behavior when you have cued it, ignore it when you haven't.
The behavior will disappear except when cued. This is one way to get rid of puppyish
appeasement behaviors such as frantic face-licking; pawing and begging; jumping up;
intrusive sniffing; barking and whining; scratching at doors; and (trust me) submissive
urination. These are all innate puppy-to-adult-dog behaviors that we often intensify both
by getting angry and by inadvertent reinforcement.
Method 7. Shape the Absence of the behavior.
Reinforce everything that is not the undesired behavior. This method is particularly
appropriate with fearful or aggressive dogs. If the dog does anything normal, click. And
treat. Keep the sessions short, keep the reinforcements coming thick and strong, once
every ten seconds at least, and repeat as desired.
Method 8. Change the motivation.
Example: the dog in the yard that barks all night, disturbing the neighbors. This is a
lonely and frightened dog. Let the dog sleep in the house. Problem solved. Too often,
however, modern dog owners try to solve behavior problems by analyzing or explaining
why the dog is misbehaving. With the exception of genetically induced behavioral
anomalies (which are hard to diagnose and pin down) it is rarely productive to ask why
a dog does what it does. Identify the behavior (not the cause of the behavior). Then
identify something you can reinforce that will replace that behavior-and the stuff you
don't want will go away by itself.
airwalk wrote:Grace I think the advised about he whistling and warbling is spot on. She has learned this gets her what she wants...so ignore it (buy earplugs) no getting out of the crate if you are screaming at me.
Unfortunately I agree with the others about when there is play right in front of her. That's asking a lot. Could she be in a different room (even a bathroom) just during play time so she can't see what is going on?
airwalk wrote:Just a teeny reminder..she hasn't been with you very long. She is still learning what is and isn't acceptable in the new parameters of her life. She is going to try the things that have always worked for her...because that's what dogs do, use what works. When it ceases working (that's the extinguishing the behavior) you get to help her find something more appropriate that does work.
Patience grasshopper, patience
ArtGypsy wrote:airwalk wrote:Just a teeny reminder..she hasn't been with you very long. She is still learning what is and isn't acceptable in the new parameters of her life. She is going to try the things that have always worked for her...because that's what dogs do, use what works. When it ceases working (that's the extinguishing the behavior) you get to help her find something more appropriate that does work.
Patience grasshopper, patience
YOU DON'T THINK I'M PATIENT??
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