BigDogBuford wrote:A thug is a thug is a thug.
I have no sympathy for people who abuse kids, animals or the elderly. They systematically pick victims that are weaker than they are because they are cowards with small dicks.
do people even listen when he talks? every time he talks about it he talks about what HE went through. he doesn't talk about the horrible things he did to the animals.
AllAmericanPUP wrote:Can people not read simple body language?
have you ever watched the man when he says "he's sorry"?
his statements about being sorry are cold and calculated, he says what his PR agents tell him to say and that is all.
the man is a sociopath. he has no empathy for what he is done and he is certainly not sorry for it he is simply sorry he got caught(as many others have already said).
I think people forget that he didn't simply participate as a spectator in dog fighting. he electrocuted and drowned these dogs. he tortured them!
DemoDick wrote:Really? Her personally tortured them? He drowned and electrocuted these dogs himself? I'm really interested to see any conclusive evidence that would support that claim. As of yet I haven't seen it and I understand that he was merely facilitating the crimes by maintaining the property. Am I wrong on this?
plebayo wrote:DemoDick wrote:Really? Her personally tortured them? He drowned and electrocuted these dogs himself? I'm really interested to see any conclusive evidence that would support that claim. As of yet I haven't seen it and I understand that he was merely facilitating the crimes by maintaining the property. Am I wrong on this?
He may not have actually stood there and held the dog's lives in his hands, but IMO facilitating it and participating in it are the same thing - regardless of what the law might say.
It really doesn't make what he did any less wrong just because he watched his friends do everything.
pitbullmamaliz wrote:Actually, I'm pretty sure he did admit to killing 2 or 3 of the dogs himself.
AUGUST 24--Michael 'Ookie' Vick has agreed to plead guilty to a felony charge for his role in the management of a brutal dogfighting ring that was headquartered at a Virginia property owned by the NFL star. Vick, 27, is expected to formally enter his guilty plea Monday in an appearance at U.S. District Court in Richmond. As part of a plea deal, the Atlanta Falcons quarterback admitted that his Bad Newz Kennels operation wagered money--which he provided--in pit bull fights. However, 'Vick did not gamble by placing side bets on any of the fights,' according to a 'summary of the facts' that was filed today in court. That document, a copy of which you'll find below, also notes that Vick 'was aware' that three of his cohorts killed several dogs that performed poorly in test fighting sessions in mid-2002. The summary reports that 'Vick did not kill any dogs at this time.' Earlier this year, Vick, and two cronies 'agreed to the killing of approximately 6-8 dogs' that fared poorly in testing sessions at his Smithfield, Virginia property. Some of the animals were drowned or hanged, and Vick 'stipulated' that the animals died via the 'collected efforts' of himself, and codefendants Quanis Phillips and Purnell Peace. Both Phillips and Peace previously pleaded guilty to federal charges and stated that Vick participated in the execution of eight dogs last April. Vick faces a maximum of five years in prison for his conspiracy conviction. (22 pages)
'DemoDick wrote:Okay, that makes it more serious for me. "Facilitating" this kind of thing a few states away is a lot easier to rationalize when you don't have to see the ugliness of it up close and personal (out of sight, out of mind). But to kill dogs by hanging or drowning, when there are more humane ways to do it (hell, a bullet in the head is kinder), is just plain sick. There's some damaged goods for you.
The Philadelphia Eagles released Damon Moore after he abandoned a three month old Rottweiler puppy in a field. They traced the dog to Moore via a microchip implanted by the store that sold the dog.
In 2001, Eagles running back Thomas Hamner was cut after his second instance of being nailed with animal cruelty charges. Not once, but twice, he beat his pit bull nearly to death.
WackyJacki wrote:mnp13 wrote:Why don't I believe it? Because systematic torture of animals for personal gratification/gain is the mark of a sociopath. Sociopaths don't just "turn over a new leaf." He did this for years, you have to be a sick individual to do it once... but years? Like has already been said, he's only sorry he got caught.
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