WTF? Blue Fawn?

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Postby Vertigo » January 30th, 2010, 4:32 am

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... 8%26um%3D1

What's this all about? Looks a lot like my rescue of a mutt Montgomery.
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Postby iluvk9 » January 30th, 2010, 7:29 am

Looks like a chubby Lab. :giggle: Maybe they come with blue collars? 8)
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Postby hugapitbull » January 30th, 2010, 8:25 am

Those are some well fed pups. Maybe the person is color blind? :| :shock:
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Postby iluvk9 » January 30th, 2010, 9:34 am

I just asked a friend who has Great Danes, and has mentioned the blue-fawn color. Seems it is a solid fawn coat, with a bluish tint, and "blue mask". (Not sure what that is.) Noses are black/blue, as are ears and I think she said their skin.
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Postby Malli » January 30th, 2010, 3:21 pm

blue mask would be diluted color, so instead of a black mask it'll be like a watered - down color pigment. Blue fawn is like a diluted grey fawn color, I believe.
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Postby juniper8204 » January 30th, 2010, 3:30 pm

Blue fawn is just a dilute of regular fawn (tan with black mask/points). In Great Danes, it's not a recognized color by the AKC if you're going to show, and it comes from breeding a fawn or brindle with another color. Fawn and brindle GD's are not supposed to be bred to any other color except other fawns and brindles, otherwise you get odd and unshowable colors like "fawn-equin", blue fawn, blue brindle, blue harlequin, piebald etc. And a merle GD, UNLESS you know exactly what you are doing, shouldn't be bred period; you run the chance of having white, deaf/blind puppies. Ahem...uh...yeah...I think I overeducated myself when I adopted a GD years ago. LOL :rolleyes2:

Unfortunately, a lot of people will sell blue fawn pit bulls at a higher price because it's considered a "rare" color.

I think it is a pretty color, but I wouldn't pay more for a dog or choose a dog just because it has this color. I'm just fine with my rednoses and brindles. :dance:
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Postby DeeNtheChillas » January 30th, 2010, 4:56 pm

I think blue fawns are very pretty. But there are lots of them in rescue, I will stick with that. :)
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Postby dlynne1123 » January 30th, 2010, 5:03 pm

Yeah, I've seen blue fawns from the dogs my pup came from. Shes a red, red nose. Her cousins look washed out. Almost grayish, even though still called fawn. Panser is actually a Red, not Fawn but my interpretation was a diluted looking red or fawn. I've also seen people call a black dog blue though. So its in the eyes of the beholder!
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Postby BigDogBuford » January 30th, 2010, 8:17 pm

I wouldn't have believed it unless I'd seen it myself. Clifford was a very dilute blue fawn. We didn't really notice it until he got healthy and his coat really grew in nicely.
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Postby juniper8204 » January 31st, 2010, 10:09 am

dlynne1123 wrote: I've also seen people call a black dog blue though. So its in the eyes of the beholder!


We had a lady come into the clinic not long ago that called her black dog bluenose for the simple fact that the dog's parents were both blue. I tried explaining that bluenose isn't a type of dog, only a color, and her dog was obviously pitch black, but she was having none of it, and was convinced her poorly bred mutt was a "rare bluenose pitbull." :nono: This was the same lady who said she could tell how many puppies this dog was going to have because she had ten teets, so she'd have a litter of 13. :crazy2:
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Postby mnp13 » January 31st, 2010, 2:37 pm

Is blue fawn the one that is also called lilac? Or maybe something else... it looks kinda purplish
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Postby dlynne1123 » January 31st, 2010, 8:11 pm

mnp13 wrote:Is blue fawn the one that is also called lilac? Or maybe something else... it looks kinda purplish

Yes, I think its a good description...

http://www.atlkingpits.com/assets/image ... 007029.jpg

This what my pups mother looked like

And this was what her father looked like....

http://www.bulldoginformation.com/ameri ... d-nose.jpg

Kinda a washier red, that bright red...
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Postby TheRedQueen » January 31st, 2010, 8:14 pm

mnp13 wrote:Is blue fawn the one that is also called lilac? Or maybe something else... it looks kinda purplish


Lilac in border collies is usually red dilutes, not black dilutes...

http://www.gis.net/~shepdog/BC_Museum/P ... Looks.html

Aussies are the same, you can have red and black, and dilutes of both...

http://www.bordercolliecolors.com/borde ... ilute.html

blue is a black dilute...blue merle is when the dilution gene affects part of the coat. Lilac is when the red is diulted.
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Postby dlynne1123 » January 31st, 2010, 8:18 pm

I've also see this diluted gene in Jack Russels or rat terriers and beagles. Not sure how well bred they were but they had papers. Like a washed out look. Not even sure if its widely accepted or considered a flaw in these breeds.
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Postby TheRedQueen » January 31st, 2010, 8:33 pm

dlynne1123 wrote:I've also see this diluted gene in Jack Russels or rat terriers and beagles. Not sure how well bred they were but they had papers. Like a washed out look. Not even sure if its widely accepted or considered a flaw in these breeds.


If I remember correctly, dilutes are acceptable in beagles...as it's "any hound color" in the standard. Rat terriers are allowed to have diultes too, I think, but not sure about JRTs.

The colors pop up in aussies, but they're not an accepted color...they just happen.
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