Malli wrote:That being said, I always like to err on the side of caution and my dog is fully vaccinated to my vet's recommendations.
maberi wrote:Malli wrote:That being said, I always like to err on the side of caution and my dog is fully vaccinated to my vet's recommendations.
Do you know if your vet suggests different protocols for dogs with compromised immune systems? I understand that may not be the case with Oscar, but I was just wondering if vets change their recommendations based on this fact.
HappyChick wrote:It's really a tough decision under those circumstances. We are dealing with a similar situation with Celena right now. She has mange and skin infections, and had not had any shots when we got her a couple of months ago. She is only about 5 months old. She got her first set of shots, but the vet and I agreed to forego the boosters until the mange is better. My understanding is that mange is a result of a compromised immune system. Continuing to introduce diseases into her compromised system via vaccinations is not the optimum solution. However, our vet says that dogs who HAVE had specifically the parvo vaccination are better equipped to fight parvo (should they contract it) than dogs who have never had the vaccination. FYI, there are multiple strains of parvo and leptospirosis out there and vaccines generally contain only the most prevalent strains so dogs can still contract one of the other strains. I THINK I have that right...
Malli wrote:I believe he does - one of my friends/ex-coworkers had a dog that he told her to no longer vaccinate and if I remember correctly he had an Immune issue. He would also probably recommend keeping the dog away from areas where other dogs go - I think it would most likely be a combination of the two. He would probably pair down the vaccine type and frequency as much as possible - but things like this can also depend on the owner and what they agree to, whats best for the dog is often quite hard on the pocketbook (multiple seperate vaccines SHOULD get a full exam with each shot), and with my personal vet he is also likely to try to give the person a break if they are doing the best thing for their dog and he knows its pricey.
It would depend on the Vet though - they are just like Doctors, most are painstakingly thoughtful with regards to their patient's health and every once in a while you'll get one that hasn't been keeping up with the studies or has their own ideas and does something completely different.
Its the first question he'll ask me when I ask if he should continue to be vaccinated for _____, "does he go where a lot of other dogs do?"
does that make sense?
blabsforbullies wrote:The reason that we have to do a "booster" vaccine is because of the way that the immune system works with respect to certain kinds of vaccines. When you vaccinate with certain types of vaccines, ie: distemper/parvo/lepto/lyme, the initial vaccine stimulates the immune system with a type of antibody that doesn't last long term. The next vaccine(s), or booster(s), stimulates the body to produce antibodies that last longer and will provide protection should your animal encounter the disease. Some vaccines only need one dose (ie: the rabies that young animals get usually lasts for 1 year without a booster, but are then are boostered again at approx. 1 year of age), some need two boosters initially separated by a period of time apart(ie: lyme vaccines, lepto vaccines), and depending on the age of the animal and their immune systems, some require three initial vaccines(ie: distemper/parvo).
I love it when you come in with all your information and knowledge!
Great info Blabs. It's nice to see that vets are not putting out cookie cutter vaccination schedules for all dogs, and the dog's health and lifestyle are taken into account.
Do you see many patients running titers after all of the puppy vaccines and boosters to ensure the dog has an adequate immune response? Do you see many cases where the vaccine is immunogenic or where a dog is non responsive?
blabsforbullies wrote: This is also part of the reason why you don't see too many vaccine companies labeling their vaccines for a long duration of immunity. Why one dog has a 10 year duration and another not even 2year duration of immunity? So many factors play into that, but it will be the vaccine company that is ultimately responsible if the vaccine fails. That is a risk that they aren't willing to take....yet.
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