pitbullmamaliz wrote:Holy crap, Inara actually got a B - "50: Dogs in this category are typically wonderful family dogs with a few rough edges. This dog could easily move to the "A" grade with some training."
furever_pit wrote:LOL
I understand that the method does work with some dogs, I'm not disputing that. I just prefer not to use them on my dogs. For one, I know both my dogs would think it was a toy. And two, I don't like to encourage noise sensitivity in my working dogs.
Megumi-Oni wrote:furever_pit wrote:LOL
I understand that the method does work with some dogs, I'm not disputing that. I just prefer not to use them on my dogs. For one, I know both my dogs would think it was a toy. And two, I don't like to encourage noise sensitivity in my working dogs.
Dont worry about the noise sensitivity thing. The Bark Busters method is all about finding a solution that works with YOUR dog, so they modify the training techniques to fit you and your pets. Seriously! No worries!
Megumi-Oni wrote:Well yeah, that's different. why would you be training a dog to bite someone anyway? Isn't that sortof adding to the problem? I mean... I don't know these things, but if I were the JQP and I read that someone was training a dog to bite, I think I'd really get the impression we're all trying to fight against here... you know? maybe I'm way off... but I just think dogs shouldn't be trained to bite or attack at all. Like... maybe if it's a police dog or military dog... but that's it. Because in those cases I understand the utility. But... a dog owned by a private individual who isn't responsible for the safety and security of the public training a dog to bite? that's not really cool to me...
What do you guys do? I'm asking in all sincere honesty. I'm curious in what field it's necessary to train a dog that way so that I don't make an ignorant statement?
Thanks!
Megumi-Oni wrote:Well yeah, that's different. why would you be training a dog to bite someone anyway? Isn't that sortof adding to the problem? I mean... I don't know these things, but if I were the JQP and I read that someone was training a dog to bite, I think I'd really get the impression we're all trying to fight against here... you know? maybe I'm way off... but I just think dogs shouldn't be trained to bite or attack at all. Like... maybe if it's a police dog or military dog... but that's it. Because in those cases I understand the utility. But... a dog owned by a private individual who isn't responsible for the safety and security of the public training a dog to bite? that's not really cool to me...
What do you guys do? I'm asking in all sincere honesty. I'm curious in what field it's necessary to train a dog that way so that I don't make an ignorant statement?
Thanks!
TheRedQueen wrote:Because it's a fun sport... I would so be doing bitework and such with my guys if I had the time and energy.
Megumi-Oni wrote:Well yeah, that's different. why would you be training a dog to bite someone anyway? Isn't that sortof adding to the problem? I mean... I don't know these things, but if I were the JQP and I read that someone was training a dog to bite, I think I'd really get the impression we're all trying to fight against here... you know? maybe I'm way off... but I just think dogs shouldn't be trained to bite or attack at all. Like... maybe if it's a police dog or military dog... but that's it. Because in those cases I understand the utility. But... a dog owned by a private individual who isn't responsible for the safety and security of the public training a dog to bite? that's not really cool to me...
What do you guys do? I'm asking in all sincere honesty. I'm curious in what field it's necessary to train a dog that way so that I don't make an ignorant statement?
Thanks!
furever_pit wrote:Thanks!
Both my boys train in Schutzhund. It's a three phase sport - tracking, obedience, and protection. I do it because I enjoy it and because my dogs enjoy it. My big boy, Dylan, [b]LIVES to train[/b]. And for those of us who train to compete, it's not like it's just training a dog to bite/attack with no boundaries. You can put A LOT of control on a dog and IMHO a dog's bitework is most impressive when it is matched with stellar obedience.
Megumi-Oni wrote:What do you guys do? I'm asking in all sincere honesty. I'm curious in what field it's necessary to train a dog that way so that I don't make an ignorant statement?
DemoDick wrote:For reference, this is what I'm talking about. The decoy petting him in the beginning? He was biting him immediately before we shot this clip. Clear-headed, precise control under extreme stress and distraction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRyau9byvJk
Demo Dick
maberi wrote:Check out AKC or Schutzhund tracking
If it is something you are interested in getting into, check out the yahoo forum on tracking
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tracking_Dog/
There is a lot of useful information for handlers new to the sport as well as experienced handlers. Just a fair warning. Tracking requires a LOT of training and patience
maberi wrote:moved to other thread
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