pitbullmamaliz wrote:Actually meal is generally better because if a "meat" is the first ingredient, it's probably a lot less after it gets cooked down, while a meal is still substantial after cooking.
dogged wrote:Is the first Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete? If so, I tried this one with my hard keepers (Bud/Tate). The results were so-so and they didn't gain weight like I had anticipated with that kind of fat content. I'm still trying different performance foods on them, but finding one with respectable ingredients is pretty hard to come by. Most have by-products and tons o' fillers.
Here is the newest kibble I plan to try. It doesn't have a high fat content and the ingredients are OK, but the k/cals per cup is higher than EA.
http://www.caninecaviar.com/Chicken%20A ... Adult.aspx
I can get a 33lb bag for $44 locally.
Not trying to hijack your thread, but I've been going through the same thing with my two food burners. Let me know if you find anything that works!
Dog_Shrink wrote:INGREDIENTS
Porcine Meat and Bone Meal, Ground Brewers Rice, Ground
Yellow Corn, Poultry Fat ( stabilized with Mixed Tocopherols
and Citric Acid ),Chicken by Product Meal, Corn Gluten Meal,
Beet Pulp, Animal Digest, Flaxseed, Dried Whole Eggs, Dried
Cheddar Cheese, Brewers Dried Yeast, Dried Whey,
Dried Buttermilk, Dried Cottage Cheese, Salt, Dicalcium
Phosphate,Potassium Chloride,Chlorine Chloride, DL-
Methionine, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement,
Niacin Supplement, Copper Sulfate, d- Calcium Panthothenate,
Folic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate in Gelatin, Manganous Oxide,
d-biotin, Ascorbic Acid ( Vitamin C ), Menadione Dimethylpy-
rimidinol Bisulfite( source of Vitamin K ), Vitamin B12
Supplement,Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement,
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Ethylenediamine Diihydrodide,
Thiamine Mononitrate,Inositol and Sodium Selenite.
Available in 20, 40 and, 50# Bags
BritneyP wrote:Erin, I'd say if you are looking for something a little more convenient than having to drive to Costco, but you feel your crew is doing just fine on the Kirkland, go with the Diamond Naturals Chicken & Rice. Kirkland is manufactured by Diamond and I'm sure as you can tell by the ingredients, it's basically just the Diamond Naturals repackaged.
So if you don't really think your guys need the extra fat and protein, I'd stick with the regular Chicken & Rice formula.
BullyLady wrote:Dog_Shrink wrote:INGREDIENTS
Porcine Meat and Bone Meal, Ground Brewers Rice, Ground
Yellow Corn, Poultry Fat ( stabilized with Mixed Tocopherols
and Citric Acid ),Chicken by Product Meal, Corn Gluten Meal,
Beet Pulp, Animal Digest, Flaxseed, Dried Whole Eggs, Dried
Cheddar Cheese, Brewers Dried Yeast, Dried Whey,
Dried Buttermilk, Dried Cottage Cheese, Salt, Dicalcium
Phosphate,Potassium Chloride,Chlorine Chloride, DL-
Methionine, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement,
Niacin Supplement, Copper Sulfate, d- Calcium Panthothenate,
Folic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate in Gelatin, Manganous Oxide,
d-biotin, Ascorbic Acid ( Vitamin C ), Menadione Dimethylpy-
rimidinol Bisulfite( source of Vitamin K ), Vitamin B12
Supplement,Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement,
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Ethylenediamine Diihydrodide,
Thiamine Mononitrate,Inositol and Sodium Selenite.
Available in 20, 40 and, 50# Bags
Eeeeeek!! Those ingredients are no good!!
BullyLady wrote:Dog_Shrink wrote:INGREDIENTS
Porcine Meat and Bone Meal, Ground Brewers Rice, Ground
Yellow Corn, Poultry Fat ( stabilized with Mixed Tocopherols
and Citric Acid ),Chicken by Product Meal, Corn Gluten Meal,
Beet Pulp, Animal Digest, Flaxseed, Dried Whole Eggs, Dried
Cheddar Cheese, Brewers Dried Yeast, Dried Whey,
Dried Buttermilk, Dried Cottage Cheese, Salt, Dicalcium
Phosphate,Potassium Chloride,Chlorine Chloride, DL-
Methionine, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement,
Niacin Supplement, Copper Sulfate, d- Calcium Panthothenate,
Folic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate in Gelatin, Manganous Oxide,
d-biotin, Ascorbic Acid ( Vitamin C ), Menadione Dimethylpy-
rimidinol Bisulfite( source of Vitamin K ), Vitamin B12
Supplement,Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement,
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Ethylenediamine Diihydrodide,
Thiamine Mononitrate,Inositol and Sodium Selenite.
Available in 20, 40 and, 50# Bags
Eeeeeek!! Those ingredients are no good!!
Dog_Shrink wrote:My dogs have wheat allergies so I have to go with corn...
I would rather see a protein valu from fat simply because fat can be stored as energy to be used later and doesn't have to be burned upon consumption like meat protein, plus fats aide in the development of organ tissue and brain matter.
My Dane is usually the candle upon what we measure the quality of food upon since he is the most sensitive to food products and he is thriving on this food.
I know this isn't the "Perfect" food out there, but again when working with a budget and feeding 8 dogs, I really can't afford the "best alternatives".
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