hugapitbull wrote:Don't you know anyone you really don't like you could send to do that evaluation? It would be a lot more satisfying than getting bit yourself.
You have a good point there, but unfortunately, no.
hugapitbull wrote:Don't you know anyone you really don't like you could send to do that evaluation? It would be a lot more satisfying than getting bit yourself.
mnp13 wrote:o-u-c-h
One thing to consider, though what he did is 100% unacceptable, make no mistake about it - he could have sent you to the hospital if he had wanted to.
He's being an ass, but these are all warnings, nothing more... yet. And without intervention, I'm going to guess that eventually you will end up with a serious injury.
I will also second the question about your trainer. She may be EXCELLENT in "normal" training situations, but in my opinion this has crossed the line from "normal." Unless she has dealt with an issue like this specifically I would seek out another trainer for this issue.
I have an evaluation next week and I fully expect that I'm going to get bit. I can't do much about it, if I don't see the behavior I can't work on fixing it. I'm hoping that I won't get bit (of course) but if the owner's decsriptions of the behaviors are accurate - and I have no reason to think they are not - then I'm gonna get nailed. In my opinion, it's part of working with dogs with real issues.
TheRedQueen wrote:I'm not a fan of the Cesar approach...except for the exercise part. This plan of action seems a bit..."run them into the ground and then they'll be too tired to put up a fuss" for my taste, but that's me.
How much help did she give you on the day-to-day interactions, and what to do if he does have an aggressive incident again. (regardless of the "nature" of the aggression) What are you using to reward, and what are you using to discipline?
I'm still a little worried about the "discipline" part, I guess. I hate fighting fire with fire. Treating aggression with aggression gets people bit most of the time.
TheRedQueen wrote:I'm concerned by the apparent "cookie cutter" approach...I mean, this plan is good for all dogs...obedience, excercise, sure...more of those things are great. But to not give you a plan of action if he becomes aggressive again...she's not really working on the problem itself. She's not giving you a full toolbox to work with a potentially dangerous dog.
HappyPuppy wrote:She did not evaluate Sherman (as I thought she might) but coached us on what WE were doing and shoudl do
HappyPuppy wrote:She doesn't think he is 'aggressive' but is challenging us.
HappyPuppy wrote:only walked Sherman half way down our block and back this morning just to practice some obedience
HappyPuppy wrote:We have class again on Tuesday nite and it will be cold (for Sherman) - I'm not sure what triggered his attitude in class except the cold as (I think) he seems fine around people and dogs out on our walks. Our instructor said she'd pull him from class early tomorrow if he does 'it' again - I think I will wear 3 long sleve layers instead of the 2 I had last week as my arm is still sore.
I really think you need to look into a trainer who doesn't think the dog world follows a formula. Different breeds need different training techniques, just as different dogs of the same breed need different assessments and training plans even for the same problem.
TheRedQueen wrote:Or at the very least, muzzle him for class.
mnp13 wrote:TheRedQueen wrote:Or at the very least, muzzle him for class.
If this is fear based, I would avoid that at all costs. Christine did it with Mick because without chemo treatments he would have died, but for class? I wouldn't put the dog through it. Getting muzzle punched hurts a lot and if he knocks you over he could hurt you quite badly if he wanted to, muzzle or not.
mnp13 wrote:gotcha. thanks for clarifying.
HappyPuppy wrote: His frickin' feet have what I think are 'interdigital cysts'
HappyPuppy wrote:We've gone back to crating Sherman overnights (DH wanted to eliminate that after 3 weeks with Sherman and I think that too soon).
I'm going to wear my husband's 'hex-armor' arm guards for working on the car but they only go up to my elbows
mnp13 wrote:And if he goes for a leg this time? Or upper arm? or hand? or chest? If you are worred enough about him doing it again, that you will wear "armor" then you need to re-evaluate why you are doing it. I will never tell someone to put their dog down on the internet (yes, I'm embarassed to say I've done it before, but I've grown up a little) but if things cintinue in this direction he is going to do someone serious damage.
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