How would you handle this...?

Postby msvette2u » January 8th, 2008, 11:39 am

I have an older couple interested in adopting Diesel, and I need to find out what they'll do if one is disabled (or dies) and they cannot keep the dog any longer. He's 18mos-2yrs.
They are 69 and 74.
Is it rude to ask them to write something in their will about the dog? They are local to us, so it'd be easy to take him back should something happen.
How do I WORD that without sounding like a vulture...??
Oh - I mean, we have everyone sign paperwork stating the dog WILL come back here, but I'm thinking something should be in their will or something??
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Postby gayrghts » January 8th, 2008, 12:06 pm

On January 08 2008, 10:39 AM, msvette2u wrote:I have an older couple interested in adopting Diesel, and I need to find out what they'll do if one is disabled (or dies) and they cannot keep the dog any longer. He's 18mos-2yrs.
They are 69 and 74.
Is it rude to ask them to write something in their will about the dog? They are local to us, so it'd be easy to take him back should something happen.
How do I WORD that without sounding like a vulture...??
Oh - I mean, we have everyone sign paperwork stating the dog WILL come back here, but I'm thinking something should be in their will or something??


I would just discuss it calling it long term planning, or long term care.... and act like you discuss it with everyone...

Because theoretically, the 25 yr old couple could die in a car accident etc, just as quickly as the older couple could die from old age.
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Postby msvette2u » January 8th, 2008, 12:10 pm

True enough.
We have a spot on our agreement form that states the dog will return to us should you not be able to keep it any longer.
Many times older people DO provide for the dog, with a relative, etc.
These people just said "We'd be dead" on the part that states what you'd do if you could not keep it.
I'll ask them to expound I guess :|
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Postby TheRedQueen » January 8th, 2008, 12:46 pm

We had an elderly woman come in to raise one of our Assistance Dog puppies this past year. She was chatting through the interview, and point-blank said..."what happens if I go clunk while I'm raising this puppy?" We looked at each other (the other coordinator and I) and said..."that's a great point, and we never thought about it before!" She lives in a retirement community, but they can't legally open the door until police arrive...which would be bad if you have an animal alive in there! She laughed after she said it...so we were much more relaxed about her bluntness...and appreciated it greatly!

We now have a mention of it during our interview and home visit...because things can happen no matter how old you are! So we have back-up plans to get our puppies back to us, if anything happens to the family/individual who is raising.

We just had one of our young trainers have an issue like this recently too...she had a seizure while asleep in bed, and was unconscious for a day or so and didn't show up to work on Monday...she had a litter of puppies and the mom in the house along with her pet dogs too...luckily someone went and checked on her...and took care of the dogs.

So, I'd maybe put it in everyone's interview anyways...just drop hints if need be...about making plans for the animals in case anything happens.
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Postby airwalk » January 8th, 2008, 12:50 pm

I think it is perfectly acceptable to ask what would happen if the dog should outlive them. We do it!
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Postby katiek0417 » January 8th, 2008, 1:16 pm

I agree...I put a part about that in my purchase agreement for puppies..."In the event of sudden illness, death, or any other reason that would make it impossible to continue care for the above named pet, the puppy would be returned to the breeder unless other arrangements are made, in advance, and agreed upon by breeder and purchaser."
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Postby amazincc » January 8th, 2008, 1:27 pm

I agree... it's a perfectly good and legitimate point! And they wouldn't necessarily have to "be dead"... a lot of nursing homes do not allow pets. :wink:
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Postby msvette2u » January 8th, 2008, 2:25 pm

Thanks all - Katie, I stole your clause and will incorporate it into the agreement.
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Postby Marinepits » January 8th, 2008, 2:49 pm

On Tue, Jan 08 2008, 12:16 PM, katiek0417 wrote:I agree...I put a part about that in my purchase agreement for puppies..."In the event of sudden illness, death, or any other reason that would make it impossible to continue care for the above named pet, the puppy would be returned to the breeder unless other arrangements are made, in advance, and agreed upon by breeder and purchaser."


Ooooo, I LIKE that!
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Postby luvmypitties » January 8th, 2008, 11:50 pm

Also check this out!! Might be something to consider to help your rescue as well if you do decide to adopt to them.


From the Pets for Seniors Program web site:

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