APBTs vs. Samoyeds -- Weight Pull Demo

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Postby Ultimatek9 » September 3rd, 2007, 4:16 pm

Yesterday our club (Mid-Florida APBT Association) was at the AKC Responsible Dog Owner Day in Tampa. We brought five APBTs with us to meet and greet the public, including my boy Jaeger.
When it came for us to do our weight pull demo, the Samoyed group decided they wanted to pull against our dogs. Jaeger has been trained by pulling a tire, occasionally we would add weight for him also. He had never pulled on an actual track before. I was very happy with his performance. The APBTs won.
Here is the video, but I had to split in two parts so that it would fit.
Part 1 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lri1rGdGDQM
Part 2 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26YbPv8tiAU
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » September 3rd, 2007, 4:38 pm

Those are fun videos! I'm surprised the Samoyeds didn't do better - aren't they bred to be sled dogs?
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Postby Ultimatek9 » September 3rd, 2007, 5:24 pm

I believe they are sled dogs. But supposedly they are trained to run back and forth to pull the load, and not pull in a straight line. At least that is what one of their owners said. That seems like it would be cheating to me.
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Postby Jenn » September 3rd, 2007, 5:54 pm

Geez, looks like they need more practice.
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Postby brooksybrooks1 » September 3rd, 2007, 5:58 pm

oh my gosh, that's so funny! my parents have a samoyed, i feel like i was just sitting here watching my 9yr old juneau on a sled, she's a bit of a ditz and a total sweetheart, something tells me she would react the exact same way! they are just such sweet dogs, i've never met one that didn't have a big smile and a kind heart. that's fun that they wanted to pull with the big guys too.
p.s.: jaegar looked at lot like tre in that video, i had to do a double take for a second! although jaegars patches are way more beautiful! congrats, it looks like he did well!
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Postby TheRedQueen » September 3rd, 2007, 6:33 pm

Wonderful! Go bullies!

Honestly though...what were the Samoyed folks thinking? that's like asking couch potatoes to get up and run a marathon...these dogs haven't been used to pull sleds for years! I haven't seen a Sammy sled dog team ever. Even AKC huskies aren't used anymore...Alaskan huskies are mixes of different breeds that love to work.

It was good to see them give it a go, but I'd hate to see some of those Sammy dogs the next morning...pulled muscles, strained tendons, etc. The bullies definitely knew how to pull!
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Postby maberi » September 3rd, 2007, 7:16 pm

Ha, I think it would have made more sense to put the Samoyeds in the cart so the bullies could pull them
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Postby iluvk9 » September 3rd, 2007, 7:18 pm

I think their fur gets in the way of their eyes. :giggle:
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Postby gayrghts » September 3rd, 2007, 9:05 pm

On September 03 2007, 6:16 PM, maberi wrote:Ha, I think it would have made more sense to put the Samoyeds in the cart so the bullies could pull them


In a couple of situations it looked like the Sammy's thought that also.
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Postby Wyldmoonwoman » September 3rd, 2007, 9:08 pm

Great videos!
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Postby mnp13 » September 4th, 2007, 2:42 pm

On September 03 2007, 17:24, Ultimatek9 wrote:I believe they are sled dogs. But supposedly they are trained to run back and forth to pull the load, and not pull in a straight line. At least that is what one of their owners said. That seems like it would be cheating to me.


Sled dogs or not, if they haven't been in training, they had no business pulling.

In my opinion, one of the difficulty of the Nordic breeds is the independance that was bred into the breeds. Many Pit Bulls (and other Bull breeds) will do anything they can to please you, whereas there doesn't seem to be that same "feeling" from the nordics.

The "run back and forth" thing is to break a sled loose from frozen ground, once it's loose, they just pull forward.
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Postby Romanwild » September 4th, 2007, 9:26 pm

On September 03 2007, Ultimatek9 wrote:I believe they are sled dogs. But supposedly they are trained to run back and forth to pull the load, and not pull in a straight line. At least that is what one of their owners said. That seems like it would be cheating to me.


It is to break the sled loose in snow/ice but is a waste of energy when usings cart or rail. It's not cheating.

I'm currently working on having them hit it hard and not stop. I noticed a lot of dogs will charge forward but stop when they feel the resistance. Then they have to start pulling again to get it moving. Once they get it moving it's easier for them to just keep going.
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Postby brooksybrooks1 » September 5th, 2007, 11:55 am

i know juneau would rather be in the cart than pulling it!!! that lump on a log of a dog lays on a cool tile floor all day and that's about it! my parents seem to think that just because she pulls on the leash she's a "sled dog, bred to pull." i think that's bs! i think she's a fat lazy slob with no training, bred to look pretty and be friendly but not to think or work! but that's just me, and juneau!
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