Maryellen wrote:maryann, i posted in training here a post called Mind Games.. it has clicker info on the links ..check it out
luvmyangels wrote:I went to a working agility seminar today with Knuckles and he did very well. The trainer was using a clicker with her dog which I had never seen face to face before. I thought it was quite cool. I had spoken with the agility trainer and she said she knows someone she can refer me to for clicker training. I think this may be a better way to go for Knuckles.
Sorry if there was any confusion in my post. Thank you for everyone's feedback.
ellie@ny wrote:I'm sorry,but I dont get it!You can't do whatever you wan't with your dogs?
"Teddy my older dog would never tolerate that. Although he is dominant we have an imaginary line and neither of us try to cross it."
I think that's not cool HE has a "line" for you???Maybe I misundertanding this,I hope!But IMO they 're dogs first,and they have to do what we wan't from them.
msvette2u wrote:Well in my opinion, what you're describing with your dogs is a form of bullying them.
If it's an "alpha roll", here is what I've learned about that subject:
http://www.bogartsdaddy.com/bouvier/Tra ... oll_no.htm
(Quote from there: "Using physical force of any kind reduces your "rank." Only middle-ranked animals insecure in their place squabble.
To be "alpha," control the resources. I don't mean hokey stuff like not allowing dogs on beds or preceding them through doorways. I mean making resources contingent on behavior. Does the dog want to be fed. Great -- ask him to sit first. Does the dog want to go outside? Sit first. Dog want to greet people? Sit first. Want to play a game? Sit first. Or whatever. If you are proactive enough to control the things your dogs want, *you* are alpha by definition.
Train your dog. This is the dog-human equivalent of the "revoking of puppy license" phase in dog development. Children, women, elderly people, handicapped people -- all are capable of training a dog. Very few people are capable of physical domination.
Reward deferential behavior, rather than pushy behavior. I have two dogs. If one pushes in front of the other, the other gets the attention, the food, whatever the first dog wanted. The first dog to sit gets treated. Pulling on lead goes nowhere. Doors don't open until dogs are seated and I say they may go out. Reward pushy, and you get pushy."
NILIF is a much MUCH better (and non bullying) way to teach a dog who is "boss", as Charles said elsewhere, the alpha controls the resources.
msvette2u wrote:Nooo it wasn't you I posted that for...not to worry!
I never thought you did that with your animals...
luvmyangels wrote:I am so sorry that my post has caused conflict. As Martin Lawrence (I think he was the one to say that) would say, "Can we all just get along?"
Thank you to everyone that has shared their views.
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