GF- I told you on PBF that if you wanted to discuss it, you could start another thread. I merely didn't want to get sidetracked into an argument in a thread I started about my poor, hurt dogs. Real gutsy of you, coming to criticize me on a board which I don't belong to. (now I do.)
I'm not going to claim that I didn't make mistakes, because obviously I did. I never said I didn't. I've never said that I was perfect, and that everything I do is the right thing to do, all the freakin time. I don't sit around and rag people on message boards because they made a mistake. It's not my way.
I thought the fence would hold
!! The neighbor's dogs got into my yard once
. No fight ensued, though my dogs were out, there was a bunch of barking, I got my dogs in, the neighbors got theirs back. That is the only
time previous that the fence was breached. The neighbor's patched their side, and build a barrier to keep their dogs away from the fence. I patched my side. There had been no fence fighting since then, nothing happening at all to make me think things were continuing to escalate.
Yes, I let my dogs in the yard unobserved. (not right now) Millions of people do. Sorry you think that's irresponsible. Like millions of other people, I don't see any problem with the dogs being in a fenced
yard on their own. I have a dog door, and when I'm home, they have free access (not right now). Unlike millions of people, I don't shut my dogs out, they always can come back in, and they aren't out there when I'm not home, they're shut in the house. I can't think of anyone
I know in person that feels that they must have their eyes on their dogs constantly when the dog is behind a 6' privacy fence. Just you few people on the internet, and I have no idea what you really do with your dogs in person.
I didn't just sit here and listen to dogs screaming, and ignore it. I heard what sounded like an angry small dog barking. It didn't sound like my dog. It didn't sound like it was anywhere near my house, it sounded like it was down the block. I didn't think I could do anything about it. I finally went to check because it was weird, and I hadn't seen Elmo or Tully in a few minutes. (they're rarely gone for that long) I didn't know until I peeked through the cracks of the fence that it was
my dog, and the noise was her shrieking! Elmo never made a sound, all the noise I heard was Tully. A good part of the damage to Tully's throat happened after I'd seen what was going on, while I was trying to get over there
. I couldn't push down the fence, I tried. I'm not tall enough to climb it. It was at least
five minutes that I spent trying to get over there, in which Tully's airway was being cut off.
I wish I'd gone out sooner, but I wasn't deliberately ignoring my dogs, and it wasn't a vast amount of time. Dogs can do an incredible amount of damage in a short time. I was
in time to prevent any damage from being done to Tully's trachea. All the threat to her breathing was from swelling.
I don't think that not offering to pay Ruby's (the pit mix that did the damage, not your dog, Michelle!) vet bill makes me a bad person. Offering to pay would make me a more noble person, but I've never claimed to be the most noble person in the world. I never refused to pay, either. In fact, I'll offer right now, how about that? No problem, she doesn't have
a vet bill!
You can think badly of me over that if you want, but my neighbors have no problems with any of my actions, and they
are the ones who's opinion counts. They were grateful that I asked how Ruby was (which would have been a nice opening for them to ask for payment for her vet bills, had they wanted to do so), and sorry to see how chewed up my dogs are. They were very understanding about my damaging their gate when I forced my way through it, and we are on perfectly good terms. We will build a new fence together as soon as we can. We are all sad that this happened, and kicking ourselves that we didn't recognize the possibility, but we all know that it was a case of dogs acting like dogs, and not something that is worth acting like bratty kids over. We are all mature adults, and will continue to act like it!
How about that, neighbors getting together and resolving issues like mature adults, without resorting to threats and legal action? Imagine the possibilities!
someone else's dogs broke in, and my dogs nearly killed them (unlikely to happen, my dogs aren't very territorial), I sure wouldn't ask the owner of the other dogs to pay for the treatment of whatever injuries my dogs had. Yes, I'd have the legal right. But I'd feel bad that my dogs did such damage, and would feel that the owner had suffered enough. So no, I don't feel like a hypocrite in not offering to pay for Ruby's (non-existent) vet bills. I suspect that is how my neighbors feel. They like
my dogs, and they know that Ruby can be aggressive.
, I know I was obviously wrong to trust that fence, and I whole-heartedly wish I'd gone out there a few minutes earlier. These are mistakes I made. I suppose you've never made mistakes, and bully for you, but I'm not that perfect. I'm paying for it, too, $1200 worth. Plus the incredible mental torture of watching my dog almost killed, the thorns I picked up in my feet while running over dead blackberry vines trying to get through the fence, the bruises on my legs and hands from forcing my way through the gate, the effect of the stress and physical activity on my already weakened lungs (nasty chest cold, most of which turn into bronchitis for me) The ongoing trauma of watching my beloved dogs in pain, which far eclipses the minor physical pains I've suffered myself. At least I avoided the embarassment factor of driving to the vets in my nightgown, which I would have done if Tully hadn't started to revive when I picked her up. (I was extremely worried about the airway, and shock)
Bigger people than you offered me money for the care of my dogs. Which was a really kind and generous offer, but I told them to give the money to someone who needed it more desperately, and deserved it more. I can
pay for this care, though not easily, and I could have avoided the situation if I had done things differently.
But, that doesn't give you the right to judge me.
For anyone who actually cares about the dogs
and not one-upping people on an internet forum... if you want to see the damage done, there's a page, here:
It has the pictures I took. They are fairly gruesome, but not as gruesome as they looked before treatment! I didn't have time to take pictures of the open wounds, of course, I had to get them to the vet immediately.