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Postby pitbullmamaliz » July 23rd, 2006, 10:31 am

Ralphie, my new foster, has had diarrhea since we brought him home. I'm sure he's extremely stressed out. But when I came down this morning, he had had runny diarrhea ALL over his crate, and then also on the walls and the surrounding carpet. *sigh* No big deal, put him outside and cleaned it up. Wasn't fun, but hey, he's stressed. But my question is this: should I feed him this morning? With Inara being on raw it's no big deal to skip one meal to give her system a break. But since he's on kibble, and so stressed, would it be worse to skip a meal? I didn't feed him last night, for the same reason. Should I give him one cup instead of 2? He's acting like he feels fine - racing around with Inara, playing, and cuddling. Thanks for any advice!
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Postby rockermom » July 23rd, 2006, 10:35 am

No dont feed him I had this same problem with Rocky first day home from shelter. I was told to give him a dose of Kaopectate and feed him Rice. It worked.
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Postby rockermom » July 23rd, 2006, 10:36 am

Anyway lucky for you it was in the crate. Rocky lost it on my bedroom floor on my side of the bed on carpet. i went grocery shopping and someone decided to let the cute puppy explore the house.
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Postby rockermom » July 23rd, 2006, 10:38 am

I saw your other post about him. Im sad thinking about him. THat poor boy misses his daddy.
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Postby SisMorphine » July 23rd, 2006, 10:41 am

If the dia is that bad, fast him for 24 hours. Usually it's 12 but when it's liquid and explosive I always do it for 24. Fasting gives his inflamed bowels a chance to die down. Then feed him rice and boiled hamburg for a couple of days. You can even give it a Kaopectate gravy if you want. If that doesn't help him out you will probably have to bring a fecal sample to the vet just to be sure, and get him on some Flagyl.
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Postby rockermom » July 23rd, 2006, 10:52 am

I could not fast Rocky for 24 hrs he was starving but shooting water out of his but He could not control it. I first gave him the Keopectate right away. Since it seemed to work and calm his stomach I gave him the rice for dinner. He got better right away. Fed him rice next morning with a bit of food.
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » July 23rd, 2006, 10:55 am

I've never given kaopectate to a dog - how much? And how does one make a "kaopectate gravy"? He probably weighs 55-60 lbs...I'm guessing at that, but I'm trying to compare him to Inara's weight. Okay, so I won't feed him until this evening maybe, and then boiled hamburger and rice? Thank you both for your assistance.
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Postby rockermom » July 23rd, 2006, 11:12 am

Search internet for proper dose. I found it on a seeing eye dog foster info page. I think I gave him what a human adult dose was and he was 30lbs. I did not make a gravy he just lapped it up but Rocky will eat about anything. And I just gave him some rice. Not overcooked. I put some keopectate in with his eve rice dinner since I was unable to fast him that long. Poor boy had just come from shelter and was sooo hungry. He has since had an occasion or two of some soft stuff so I put a little rice in his food. Usually helps. I would not let him out of the crate much or keep him some place easy to clean. He probably can not hold it in if he has to go. Poor boy. I feel bad for him. How long was he with his owner I am guessing since he is from rescue he had a few homes. They struggle with that. THe Dobe I took on I was her 3 home and she had a brief 2 week stay with a family who decided not to keep her. When she got to me If I went outside she would pee and poo on the floor. Its so stressful for them.
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Postby rockermom » July 23rd, 2006, 11:17 am

Ok I just verified on a website what I thought I remembered the dose it is 1 teaspoon for every 10lbs every 4 hours.
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Postby rockermom » July 23rd, 2006, 11:21 am

Hey I just found this, It kind of answers my post of Under the weather. COuld help you too.

Here are some items you should keep on hand:

* Buffered Aspirin is good for lowering fever and relieving minor aches and pains in dogs. Most people prefer to use baby aspirin. Use approximately 80 mg per every 10 pounds of weight, usually no more than twice a day. NEVER give aspirin to a cat as it's extremely dangerous to them. Also, do not use Acetaminophen or Ibuprofen, as they are also dangerous to pets in general. Stick with the aspirin.

* Keopectate is good for soothing stomach troubles and diarrhea in both dogs and cats. A recommended amount would be 1 teaspoon for every 10 pounds of weight roughly every 4 hours.

* Gravol for motion sickness if you need to travel with your pet. Administer the tablet one hour before you leave. You should give no more than 12.5 mg to a cat or a small dog. A medium to large dog can handle between 25 to 50 mg. Do not give this to any animal that has bladder problems or glaucoma. Again, check with your vet to be sure if it's safe and what dosage is recommended for your pet.

* Pepto-Bismol, that good old pink stuff, is fine to give to your dog if they are having tummy trouble, such as vomiting or a rolling, noisy belly. One teaspoon every 6 hours per pound of body weight should be sufficient. This is another medicinal product that should not be given to cats.

* Hydrogen Peroxide and Polysporin for minor cuts and scratches. These will help clean out the wound and hopefully prevent any infection from occurring.

All in all, checking up with your vet and keeping some specific medications on hand should help you deal with any minor illnesses you may encounter with your dog and cat.

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Postby SisMorphine » July 23rd, 2006, 11:38 am

By "gravy" I just meant to dump it on the food :)

Wally won't take the Kaopectate no matter how you try to hide it. Frankly, I keep Flagyl (metronidazole) on hand ALWAYS for cases like this. If it's liquid it needs to be squelched ASAP. The longer it stays liquid, the more inflamed the bowels get, the more trouble you're going to have getting the diarrhea to stop.

Is he on the same kibble that he was on before he was taken into rescue, or has his kibble switched?
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Postby Magnolia618 » July 23rd, 2006, 12:09 pm

I would fast him for 24 hours. Canned pumpkin (NOT the pie stuff) or pepto is also good.
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Postby mnp13 » July 23rd, 2006, 1:02 pm

If you do the rice, undercook it a little, it will help firm things up.
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » July 23rd, 2006, 1:57 pm

Thank you all. He was with his owners for about 4 months. They experimented and found out he does best on Natural Choice Lamb & Rice, so Shana grabbed some for me last night and brought it out. He hasn't pooped yet today, so I'm hoping maybe he got it out of his system. I may give him like a cup of kibble and see how it sits in his tummy. And he's still extremely playful with Inara, which I'm taking as a good sign.
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Postby SisMorphine » July 23rd, 2006, 4:01 pm

I'd give it to him tomorrow. It's far easier to race him outside in the daytime instead of at night, just in case.
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Postby katiek0417 » July 23rd, 2006, 8:28 pm

Take it from someone who has been dealing with bloody, mucousy diarrhea since Wednesday:

Fast for a day. Even if you think his tummy is feeling better, giving him kibble might make things start up again (b/c Nisha had "firmer" stool on Saturday morning, I mixed some kibble with her chicken and rice Sat night...she got explosive diarrhea again).

Flagyl will definitely help.

Michelle suggested some "organic" plain yogurt to me. I just gave it tonight for the first time.

Oatmeal is also very easy on the stomach (mix a little and put it with a chicken and rice).

Immodium will also help dogs with diarrhea.

Plenty of water. If the diarrhea is that liquidy, you can add some pedialyte to the water. There's no sugar in it, so it's a little safer.
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » July 23rd, 2006, 10:03 pm

Thank you all for all your advice - he pooped a little while ago and it looked as solid as "kibble-poop" looks. We'll see tomorrow morning when I let them out before work! Hopefully no runnies to have to clean up!!!
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » July 24th, 2006, 9:39 am

I woke up to a clean crate this morning! Yay!!! :gruven: :rock:
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Postby SisMorphine » July 24th, 2006, 10:00 am

pitbullmamaliz wrote:I woke up to a clean crate this morning! Yay!!! :gruven: :rock:

Lucky! I woke up to poop a la Mike. *grumble* He hates going on leash so I'm trying not to give into him. This is the second time I've cleaned it up this week. This is getting tiresome . . .
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