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Postby ParisStreetPitCrew » June 20th, 2006, 2:49 pm

I'm considering trying out a grain-free diet for Sidney due to her severe allergies. Although her tests didn't show her to be allergic to foods, many people have suggested to me that I may see improvement in her symptoms if I try feeding her a grain free food.
The only grain-free foods I know of are NV Raw Instinct and Innova Evo (I did some searches on these topics) and it seems that some people believe these foods have too much protein and may be harmful to the kidneys. Others have had success and recommend them.

Does anyone know of other grain-free foods out there that may be an option for us?
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Postby Maryellen » June 20th, 2006, 2:53 pm

california natural herring and sweet potato has no grains except for barley and oatmeal. i use that for my allergy dog and she does ok on it. there is also grain free raw dehydrated by Honest Kitchen. Timberwolf organics has some grain free foods too.

CA Natural Herring:
Moisture 10.0 %
Protein 21.0 %
Fat 11.0 %
Fiber 4.0 %
Calories 3474 Kcal/Kg
Calories 419 KCals/Cup
Herring
Barley
Oatmeal/Rolled Oats
Herring Meal
Herring Oil
Sweet Potatoes
Sunflower Oil
Natural Flavors
Vitamin E
Vitamins/Minerals
Rosemary Extract

http://www.timberwolforganics.com
they have bison, elk, salmon, that are allergy formulas. the others have rice and stuff in them.

Fresh Bison Meat, Salmon Meal, Millet, Sweet Potatoes, Oats, Flaxseed, Carrot, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Parsley, Fennel Seed, Wild Salmon Oil, Atlantic Kelp, Alfalfa, Potassium Chloride, Currants, Cranberries, Pears, Figs, Thyme, Anise Seed, Ground Cinnamon Bark, Fenugreek, Garlic Pieces, Sunflower Seeds, Sesame Seeds, Apples, Chicory Root, Spirulina, Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Probiotics: (Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Lactis, Bacillus Bifidum, Streptococcus Diacetilactis, Bacillus Subtillus), Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a source of vitamin E), Lysine, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine, Methionine, Carnitine, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Iodine Proteinate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine (a source of vitamin B6), Cobalt Proteinate, Papain, Yucca Schidigera Extract.

PROTEIN: 26%
FAT: 16%
FIBER: 3%
MOISTURE: 9%
Kcal/kg: 3,680
OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS: 3.8%
OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: 1.4%
CALCIUM: 1.4%
PHOSPHOROUS: 1.1
VITAMIN A: 22,000 IU/KG
VITAMIN D: 1,200 IU/KG
VITAMIN E: 350 IU/KG
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Elk:
Fresh Elk, Salmon Meal, Millet, Sweet Potatoes, Oats, Flaxseed, Carrot, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Parsley, Fennel Seed, Wild Salmon Oil, Atlantic Kelp, Alfalfa, Potassium Chloride, Currants, Cranberries, Pears, Figs, Thyme, Anise Seed, Ground Cinnamon Bark, Fenugreek, Garlic Pieces, Sunflower Seeds, Sesame Seeds, Apples, Chicory Root, Spirulina, Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Probiotics: (Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Lactis, Bacillus Bifidum, Streptococcus Diacetilactis, Bacillus Subtillus), Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a source of vitamin E), Lysine, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine, Methionine, Carnitine, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Iodine Proteinate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine (a source of vitamin B6), Cobalt Proteinate, Papain, Yucca Schidigera Extract.

PROTEIN: 26%
FAT: 16%
FIBER: 3%
MOISTURE: 9%
Kcal/kg: 3,680
OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS: 3.8%
OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: 1.4%
CALCIUM: 1.4%
PHOSPHOROUS: 1.1
VITAMIN A: 22,000 IU/KG
VITAMIN D: 1,200 IU/KG
VITAMIN E: 350 IU/KG
COPPER: 16mg/KG

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Ocean Blue:
Low Ash White Fish Meal, Salmon, Potatoes, Sardine/Mackerel/Anchovy/Tuna Oils, Kelp, Alfalfa Leaf, Potassium Chloride, Carrot, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Parsley, Fennel Seed, Blueberries, Cranberries, Pears, Figs, Thyme, Anise Seed, Ground Cinnamon Bark, Fenugreek, Garlic Pieces, Sunflower Seeds, Sesame Seeds, Apples, Taurine, Spirulina, Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Probiotics: (Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Lactis, Bacillus Bifidum, Streptococcus Diacetilactis, Bacillus Subtillus), Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a source of vitamin E), Lysine, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine, Methionine, Carnitine, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Iodine Proteinate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine (a source of vitamin B6), Copper Proteinate, Selenium Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Papain, Yucca Schidigera Extract.

PROTEIN: 26%
FAT: 16%
FIBER: 3%
MOISTURE: 9%
Kcal/kg: 3,675
OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS: 3.4%
OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: 1.4%
CALCIUM: 1.5%
PHOSPHOROUS: .9
VITAMIN A: 22,000 IU/KG
VITAMIN D: 1,400 IU/KG
VITAMIN E: 350 IU/KG
COPPER: 16mg/KG

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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 20th, 2006, 3:37 pm

RAW! :wink:
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Postby ParisStreetPitCrew » June 20th, 2006, 3:39 pm

Hmm, I may try out the California Natural Herring & SP. I just called my feed store to verify that they carry it. I didn't know about this formula.

Sidda was on Wellness Fish & Sweet Potato for a while, but she had really loose stools, dandruff, and seemed to smell bad. I don't think it was the potato, though, since she would often eat sweet potato with her raw meals without a problem. :|
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Postby Maryellen » June 20th, 2006, 3:40 pm

wellness gives stools..
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Postby cheekymunkee » June 20th, 2006, 3:41 pm

pitbullmamaliz wrote:RAW! :wink:


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Postby ParisStreetPitCrew » June 20th, 2006, 3:41 pm

pitbullmamaliz wrote:RAW! :wink:


I know. I'm just not ready to go ALL raw. I don't know if I ever will be. :?
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Postby cheekymunkee » June 20th, 2006, 4:00 pm

ParisStreetPitCrew wrote:
pitbullmamaliz wrote:RAW! :wink:


I know. I'm just not ready to go ALL raw. I don't know if I ever will be. :?


We'll hold your hand when you are ready, :)
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Postby Magnolia618 » June 20th, 2006, 7:14 pm

Maryellen wrote:wellness gives stools..


Well I should hope so! lol
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Postby katiek0417 » June 20th, 2006, 8:16 pm

I love TW elk and salmon formula....
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Postby Maryellen » June 20th, 2006, 9:08 pm

duh. i mean wellness gives SOFT stools.... dam brownie crumbs
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Postby Magnolia618 » June 20th, 2006, 9:28 pm

are you sure those arent special brownies? :wink:
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Postby cheekymunkee » June 20th, 2006, 9:44 pm

I made them....want one? :)
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Postby ParisStreetPitCrew » June 21st, 2006, 7:57 am

katiek0417 wrote:I love TW elk and salmon formula....


I don't think there are any retailers or distributers around here. It looks like I would have to order it online.
I'll put it on my list. :)
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Postby ParisStreetPitCrew » June 21st, 2006, 10:03 am

cheekymunkee wrote: We'll hold your hand when you are ready, :)


I appreciate that. :D
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Postby Magnolia618 » June 21st, 2006, 10:05 am

cheekymunkee wrote:I made them....want one? :)


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Postby turtle » June 21st, 2006, 9:02 pm

cheekymunkee wrote:I made them....want one? :)


Yummm brownies.... One here too please!
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Postby turtle » June 21st, 2006, 9:05 pm

ParisStreetPitCrew wrote:
katiek0417 wrote:I love TW elk and salmon formula....


I don't think there are any retailers or distributers around here. It looks like I would have to order it online.
I'll put it on my list. :)


I order the Timberwolf on line and have done so for over a year. It's worked out fine for me but I have heard they can have delays in the order's delivery time. So I just order it well before I need it.

I also feed half raw half kibble, maybe that would be an option for Sidney? Mine gets a raw chicken thigh or leg or similar in the mornings and a 1/2 cup of kibble at night. It's pretty easy that way.
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Postby ParisStreetPitCrew » June 21st, 2006, 9:12 pm

gf turtle wrote: I order the Timberwolf on line and have done so for over a year. It's worked out fine for me but I have heard they can have delays in the order's delivery time. So I just order it well before I need it.

I also feed half raw half kibble, maybe that would be an option for Sidney? Mine gets a raw chicken thigh or leg or similar in the mornings and a 1/2 cup of kibble at night. It's pretty easy that way.


Thanks. Is it expensive to have bags shipped?

Sid does get some raw as well as Canidae right now. I feed them a few raw meals a week, but it's a PITA since I grind all of the bones and meat. Yeah, I know, I know about the grinding, but Piper has a lot of intestinal problems and I'm afraid of him with bones. This is why I say I know I'm just not ready to go all raw.
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Postby turtle » June 21st, 2006, 9:43 pm

ParisStreetPitCrew wrote:
gf turtle wrote: I order the Timberwolf on line and have done so for over a year. It's worked out fine for me but I have heard they can have delays in the order's delivery time. So I just order it well before I need it.


Thanks. Is it expensive to have bags shipped?



They rasied the price of the food about a month ago but now they offer free shipping. I even emailed and asked about the free shipping and they told me, yes, free shipping. It sort of evens out the price increase.

Yes, maybe only feeding one dog half raw might help. Mine is a good chewer so she gets chicken thighs and legs, and lamb necks, etc.
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