What do you make of this?? Copper again...

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Postby Marinepits » May 8th, 2006, 8:45 am

Fingers and paws crossed for Copper and you. :)
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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 9:29 am

pocketpit wrote:What's his gum color like? I'd be very worried too! Keep us updated, hope he's okay!

I had just read the SOS pad post so thought to check and they were OK. Good refill...what's odd is, he tenses up when I touch him at all from his ribs to his rear end - but on the SIDES of his body, not the spine. His...flanks look funny. They are bulgy...I can't explain it. I'm so worried he's got an infection or some tumor. He isn't peeing blood and until last night after we got home was doing actually, seemingly "OK" not better but holding his own.
I went to bed with him last night and he slept as comfortably as I figure he could. He's doing the same this morning. Resting OK but if I touch him he tenses up.
I don't KNOW - I can't figure out what is wrong - his abdomen gets "tense" if you feel it but when he's relaxed it comes down loose so I didn't think it was bloat or something. When he was asleep, I touched his tummy and he tensed it up again when he realized I was touching it.
He goes in at 8am. I'm going to ask them if I can stay for a while with him, if they can't get right to him. He's stressed out enough without putting him in a kennel and making him wait...
I thought last night he was going to die. I called Jeff and he didn't really want me to take him in but I told him, if he gets worse, I'm taking him. I really thought he might die and I didn't want him to go in pain like that...I mean - he went under the bed because I set him in the bedroom and I said Wait here and I'll lift you up, but as I came in here to turn out the light I heard him trying to get up, so I said "No, wait!" and I went back in and he was under there. I literally could not get him out, for a treat or anything.
I finally had to get the broom and "scoot" him out with it and he came out and I got him up on the bed where he still is now.
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Postby cheekymunkee » May 8th, 2006, 10:02 am

Poor baby, I hope you find out soon what is wrong & that it is not too serious.
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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 10:10 am

Reading that SOS pad thread is scaring me...he's walking all hunched over...he wasn't even doing this yesterday AM...I'll let you guys know as soon as I do, what the vet says...
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Postby turtle » May 8th, 2006, 10:57 am

Awww poor little guy. I hope he's ok, sounds like his tummy area is very painful. Please keep us updated...
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Postby Asta » May 8th, 2006, 11:13 am

Ugh, poor baby :( It sucks knowing that something is wrong but still cant do something! Keeping fingers and toes crossed that it turns out ok today!

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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 1:16 pm

Well I dropped him off, I did wait with him until the vet came in, she gave him a muscle relaxant because he was so tense he was like a ball. We are now thinking it is his spine, she explained that sometimes it's hard to see a disc problem but she'd be Xraying his spine and all and the Xrays should catch if there's something else internal wrong.
Now I have to wait...
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eta) I miss him already. I saved him a bit of egg from my Mcdonalds breakfast sandwich and he isn't here to share it with me :cry:
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Postby a-bull » May 8th, 2006, 1:36 pm

yes, because that's common in those little guys, right??

Mabe he just has some inflammtion or such, and he'll be o.k.

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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 1:39 pm

Collapsed disc :(
He's got to be crated...(I'm on the phone with the vet now) He's got to be carried everywhere for at least two weeks...but he's going to be OK for now, he's got a dexamethasone shot IV and will be on prednisone...I'm going to go pick him up.
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Postby Jenn » May 8th, 2006, 1:48 pm

:( Sorry, poor little Copper.. Hopefully the next few weeks he'll make a speedy recovery.
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Postby cheekymunkee » May 8th, 2006, 1:50 pm

OUCH!!!!! I have disc problems in my upper back & deformed discs in my lower. Poor little bugger. I'm glad he can be helped. He'll enjoy being carried!
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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 1:58 pm

I can't get him until 3pm! or so. He's sedated (telazol!) I'm going to Walmart to purchase him a new crate, we don't really have one his size...he's never been crated, so...well...I'm SO not looking forward to hearing him cry because he's crated!
The Xrays didn't show any enlargement of any of his organs...and he can't have bloodwork until he's off the prednisone and everything so it will be at LEAST two weeks before they can do those things.
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Postby babyreba » May 8th, 2006, 1:59 pm

oh goodness, good luck.

if he gets worse rather than better over the next few days/weeks, don't wait to take him to a specialist . . . when JD had the disc problem in his back, my vet didn't really know what to do except provide lots of pain meds and muscle relaxers for him. when he got worse, she prescribed more . . . which in the end was a mistake because he was getting worse and needed more aggressive therapy.

good luck, poor little guy!
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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 2:05 pm

The specialist is in Pullman at Washington State University. I have no idea what the surgery runs...
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Postby dogcrazyjen » May 8th, 2006, 2:21 pm

I am so sorry to hear that. At least you know now, and can start researching options. :(
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Postby SisMorphine » May 8th, 2006, 2:27 pm

Poor little guy! At least you know what's wrong now, and can help him!
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » May 8th, 2006, 3:05 pm

I agree with everybody else - poor little guy, but at least you know, and quite frankly, I think it could have been much much worse. Just don't give in to his crying in the crate - you'd feel worse then if he hurt himself further! Get a cute little bag to carry him in... :wink:
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Postby pocketpit » May 8th, 2006, 3:23 pm

Although back problems can be bad I'm glad to hear it's something fixable like that. Poor little guy, no wonder he's so miserable!
And BabyReba is right, at the first sign of him getting worse, get him into the vet pronto! We have a neurologist and MRI unit at our facility and we see many cases of disk disease and other similar ailments. Surgery has the best odds of being useful if you don't wait.
Give Copper lots of hugs from everyone :)
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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 5:09 pm

I joined Dodgerslist on yahoogroups, it's for spinal disease and injury in dogs.
Getting alot of info there...
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Postby msvette2u » May 8th, 2006, 7:14 pm

Copper is home with prescribed crate rest, Diazepam (valium) and prednisone. He's already unhappy with the crate. :rolleyes2:
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