Apple Cider Vinegar???

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Postby BullyLady » January 6th, 2009, 11:44 pm

Hmm...... Well I know that the way that ACV works internally is by affecting the pH of the body and bringing it to a level that is balanced for that dog. But I can't see how putting it on the skin of the dog would help the eyes. I know that people will treat hot spots topically with ACV, but I can't honestly say that I believe that topical ACV is helping any dog's eyes.
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Postby Marinepits » January 6th, 2009, 11:46 pm

He doesn't have entropian, does he? I know Neo Mastiffs can be prone to that.
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Postby SisMorphine » January 6th, 2009, 11:48 pm

Well many dogs with goopy eyes can attribute it to their diet (even if it's high quality, perhaps just not something they do best on). Unfortunately since he's a Neo he may have a similar issue to my boy Blue. Because of the extra folds/skin on his face, it has forced the tear ducts to drain onto the face. This means that the ducts which are supposed to drain back into the eye, don't. So no matter what I do he will always have goo and tear stains. I can easily keep it in check with a raw diet and daily wiping, though. Just another joy of a dog with wrinkles!!
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Postby cheekymunkee » January 6th, 2009, 11:56 pm

I have used it as a supplement in the food & it has done wonders for Munkees tear stains & runny eyes. I have diluted it to clean eye stains. I have also diluted it & used it on hot spots and it does make for a pickley dog. I put it in their water but they refused to drink it although some dogs dont mind. But I have never heard of rubbing it on the neck to help with eye boogers. Might not hurt to give it a try though. :| I havent used it on Munkee in a while & he does need it.
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Postby Marinepits » January 7th, 2009, 12:01 am

Deb, do you dilute it with water or something else?
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Postby cheekymunkee » January 7th, 2009, 12:09 am

Water, about 50/50
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Postby SisMorphine » January 7th, 2009, 12:11 am

pitbullykisses wrote:As far as face wrinkles, he really doesn't have any. His are mostly jowls and neck "flab." I may just be cursed with dog eye goop as well.

Is the skin around his eyes tight or loose? That's really what affects it. Blue's is loose (I call it wrinkly even though he's nothing like an EB or a Shar Pei).
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Postby TheRedQueen » January 7th, 2009, 12:13 am

Eye goop is the first sign of environmental allergies with Ripley...he gets runny eyes in the spring/summer from pollen and fall/winter from leaf mold. He's on benadryl a lot. :|
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Postby KJS » January 7th, 2009, 3:12 pm

I put 50ml of ACV into all 3 of the water bowls round here....I reckon they are about 3.5 liter bowls...Im pretty sure that it has had some good effects...and none negative....
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Postby SisMorphine » January 7th, 2009, 3:14 pm

A caution about ACV: it is very acidic so if you are using it regularly and it is coming into contact with the teeth, regularly, it is likely to cause some erosion. I always suggest putting the ACV in the middle of a meat ball (raw, cooked, canned, etc) as it's less likely to hit the teeth on the way down.
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Postby nicole » January 7th, 2009, 9:58 pm

I have to second what Sis mentioned and say that I'd look towards his diet first. This sounds more than just watery eyes...the whole crusty-ness year round, all the time, makes me think something he's ingesting isn't really sitting well with him. I have a mastiff who has drippy eyes, but they are clear, and its from her droopy lids.

ACV might help, but your best bet is trying to remove whats causing the problem in the first place. When you switched foods, did you try anything grain free? How about limited protein sources? It also can take a couple of months on one food to see a difference. If he isn't displaying any other typical symptoms of allergies (brown, yeasty ears and paws, itchy skin) then I bet you'd see a difference if you just switched to grain-free.
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Postby amazincc » January 8th, 2009, 6:16 pm

Do you think RAW might be cheaper, in the long-run???
How much does he eat??? And kibble prices are insane these days, no kidding. :shock:
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Postby Marinepits » January 8th, 2009, 6:26 pm

Martini won't eat raw, LOL.
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Postby amazincc » January 8th, 2009, 7:03 pm

Oh... I didn't know that. lol
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