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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 11th, 2006, 9:19 pm

Would you all recommend some good books regarding pit bulls in general, training, etc? I'm just interested in reading more.
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Postby Maryellen » June 12th, 2006, 8:15 am

go to amazon.com, they have a wonderful selection of pit bull books, from Pit Bulls for Dummies(i have this one) to all different books. i have about 7 books from amazon, and a bunchof other books from all over, plus the Bully Breeds magazine too.
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Postby mnp13 » June 12th, 2006, 8:27 am

You'll need to narrow that down a little...

basic training? OB? tricks? breed in general? breeding? showing?
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 12th, 2006, 11:23 am

Breed, in general
OB training in general (or specifically for pit bulls if it exists)
Communication with dogs

Nothing about breeding, showing, or conformation as we won't be doing any of that!

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Postby Maryellen » June 12th, 2006, 11:32 am

amazon.com has ALOT of books on the breed for obedience training, general info, etc... and their prices are very very good..
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Postby mnp13 » June 12th, 2006, 11:50 am

I think she is looking for specific titles that are worth the money. There are plenty of books out there that are complete garbage.

The working Pit Bull by Diane Jessup is good.

I recently purchased a book by Micheal Stratton (in a Belgian used book store of all places) it's good, but has a lot of fighting stories so I have a difficult time stomaching it.

The Idiots Guide to Dog Training has a lot of cool tricks that are taught step by step

I also have "Winning in the show ring" (I think that's the title) which is good but a little hokey
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Postby JCleve86 » June 12th, 2006, 11:57 am

You mean Richard Stratton? Or is there more than one Stratton in the breed?

Honestly, if you can remind yourself to stick to your guns on your position on dog fighting (assuming you are against it) I reccomend any of the Stratton books...I really like the one I have (The World of the APBT, I think...)

There's also a good more sort of coffee table book by "Paul 107" called "Bully: It's the Pits." I liked it a lot...it's more artsy fartsy than informative, but worth it I think...a good one to have our for guests to leaf through and learn a thing or two.
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Postby mnp13 » June 12th, 2006, 12:50 pm

JCleve86 wrote:You mean Richard Stratton? Or is there more than one Stratton in the breed?

Honestly, if you can remind yourself to stick to your guns on your position on dog fighting (assuming you are against it) I reccomend any of the Stratton books...I really like the one I have (The World of the APBT, I think...)


uhhhh... yeah... that's the one. It's out of print and has gone for quite a bit on ebay - I got it for 15 euro. Not bad.

Yes, I'm against fighting, but my dog was basically "tested" so the descriptions turn my stomach because I can imagine Ruby in there...
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 12th, 2006, 2:59 pm

Thanks for the replies so far - I'll check those out.
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Postby realpitbull » June 12th, 2006, 3:10 pm

Just dropped by and thought I'd respond to this thread.

My favorite breed books:

1) the Stratton books (if you can get past the obvious pro-dog fighting stuff, these were the first books I read on the breed and they give you a strong foundation in realpitbull-ology)

2) Working Pit Bull by Jessup to balance out the pro-fighting Stratton stuff.

3) The Jaqueline Fraser-O'Neil books (both the APBT book and the AmStaff book)

4) Colby's Book of the APBT for a nice historical look.

Training Books (these are must-reads!)

1) Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson

2) Toolbox for Remodeling Your Problem Dog by Terry Ryan (not a good title--this book is really just about good management and solving basic dog/human conflicts)

3) Clicking With Your Dog by Peggy Tillman

4) Complete Idiot's Guide to Positive Training by Pam Denison (I LOVE this book!)


All of these should be available at amazon.com (new or used) or dogwise.com
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Postby realpitbull » June 12th, 2006, 3:12 pm

Hey, what do you guys have against AmStaffs? LOL I just re-read my post and the "Pit Bull Wannabe" book should read, the A-M-S-T-A-F-F book.
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Postby mnp13 » June 12th, 2006, 3:14 pm

:fastRoll:

I TOTALLY forgot I did that!

Riggs is an Am Staff as well.
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Postby turtle » June 12th, 2006, 5:01 pm

Dog books of all types have become very very popular in the last 10 years so there are many to chose from. I've been a book collector for almost 40 years so I've seen tons of dog books.

Here are some I've liked and found useful.

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For pit bull breed history and info:

Jessup's "Working Pit Bull" and her "Colby Book of the APBT" are both good.

Richard Stratton wrote about 4 or 5 books, all are worth reading but they do tend to be pro dog fighting

T.L. Williams wrote several books on pit bulls, most are photos and short pedigrees of winning fighting dogs, he also published the magazine "Your Friend and Mine" for a few years. Some of his books are "Braveheart", "American Patriot", "Courage", "Re-Masters of History", "Pit Dogs".

Frank Rocca did 3 or 4 books on game dogs, the newest one "American Bull Terrier Fighting for Life" is the easiest to find. Crenshaw also did a book on his life with the APBT as did Gary Hammonds.

Mike Homan's book "The Complete History of Fighting Dogs" is excellent and full of great photos of old art work showing old time bulldogs. Sadly it is now out of print and selling for $400 (ouch!) on Amazon... I can remember when it was remaindered at $10, too bad I did not buy a stack of them!

There are several old classics that have been reprinted such as Armitage's "Thirty Years with Fighting Dogs", Glass' "The Sporting Bull Terrier", "Memories of the Pit Bull Terrier and His Master", etc.

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For dog training and behavior, I found these books useful and well written:

Donaldson's "The Culture Clash" is an interesting book and gives insight into how dogs view things which is not always the same as how humans view them.

Brenda Aloff's books "Aggression in Dogs" and "Canine Body Language" are both excellent.

Bruce Fogle write "Know your Dog", a some what simple book on dog behavior that is almost all photos but it is very useful for spouses and children who do not want to read a lot of text, the book is full of photos telling you how to read your dog's body language. It's not an expensive book either and well worth having.

Jon Katz also wrote some very readable books on dogs based on his own trainings experiences and on studying the roles of dogs in today's society. His earlier books "A Dog Year" and "The Dogs of Bedlam Farm" are about his border collies, his "The New Work of Dogs" is about dogs and how they affect our lives, it has a short sad chapter about a pit bull, still it's an interesting read. His new one "Katz on Dogs" is pretty basic but well written.

Karen Pryor's "Don't Shoot the Dog" is good, so is "The Dog Whisperer" which is not about the TV trainer Milan but about an English lady and her training of dogs.

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I'll have to check my shelves again and see what I've missed, but this is a start from memory...
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Postby Maryellen » June 12th, 2006, 5:04 pm

those books above, and

2 stratton books
the ultimate american pit bull terrier
pit bulls for dummies
american pit bull terriers
a new owners guide to the american pit bull terrier
the american pit bull terrier
happy healthy pet the american pit bull terrier
american pit bull terrier/american staffordshire terrier
the american pit bull terrier handbook

all these i got on amazon.com, including the 2 stratton books american pit bull terrier and the World of the american pit bull terrier
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 12th, 2006, 6:18 pm

You all are phenomenal!!! Thanks so much!!!
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Postby bahamutt99 » June 13th, 2006, 1:10 am

Anybody read Dawn Capp's book?
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Postby JCleve86 » June 13th, 2006, 2:16 am

bahamutt99 wrote:Anybody read Dawn Capp's book?


I was just going to ask the same thing...I'd like to buy it, but not if it's just the same stuff I already know...nothing against Dawn but I ain't be havin' the money to throw away to learn stuff I already know! lol
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Postby bahamutt99 » June 13th, 2006, 3:42 am

I ordered it a few days ago off Amazon. I'll let ya know if its any good. I also ordered that Dogs Bite, but Slippers and Ballons are More Dangerous book.
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Postby Maryellen » June 13th, 2006, 8:07 am

i have dawns book, its a good book. i listed it above too...
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Postby Hartagold AmStaffs » June 19th, 2006, 1:24 pm

Ok, here's a list of what I have (I had this saved from another forum! LOL):

The ones with (R) are reprints, not originals. Paperbacks are (P). The rest are original hardbacks unless marked otherwise.

APBT/AST books:

The American Pit Bull Terrier - Stratton
The Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier - Stratton
The World of the American Pit Bull Terrier - Stratton
The Truth about the American Pit Bull Terrier- Stratton
The Working Pit Bull - Diane Jessup
History of Fighting Dogs - Fleig
The American Pit Bull Terrier, A Closer Look - Cline & Martindale
The American Pit Bull Terrier Speaks- Good Dog! - Cline & Martindale
The American Pit Bull Terrier - Sanford & Grey
Owner's Guide to a Happy Healthy Pet- The American Pit Bull Terrier- Frasier
The Ultimate American Pit Bull Terrier - Jacqueline (Frasier) O'Neill
Pit Bulls for Dummies - D. Caroline Coile, PHD (P)
Colby's Book of the APBT - Lou Colby W/Diane Jessup
The History of the APBT - Wayne Brown - 1979 (P)
The American Staffordshire Terrier - Jacqeline Frasier
The American Staffordshire Terrier - Sara Foster
The American Staffordshire Terrier - Joseph Jannis (P) - UK
The Staffordshire Terriers - Nicholas
De American Staffordshire Terrier - F. Diaz & P. Marks - Netherlands
De American Staffordshire in De Nederlands deel 2
STCA Yearbooks- 1980, 88-91, 94-95, 96-98, 98-01, 1940 (R), 1941 (R) - all (P)
Hoflin STCA Annuals - 1988, 89,90,99,2000,01,02,03,04
The American Staffordshire Terrier (AKA- the "Red Book")- Pascoe, 1977
Sallie, Civil War Dog - Helene Smith (P)
The War Dog - John D. Lippy, Jr 1962 - (P) (about Sallie)
30 Years With Fighting Dogs - George Armitage 1935 (P), (R)
Memories of the Pit Bull Terrier and his Master - LB Hanna 1926 (P),(R)
The Staffordshire Terrier - Clifford Ormsby 1956 (P), (R)
The Sporting Bull Terrier - Eugene Glass 1915 (P), (R) - by Bull Terrier he means pit bull
The American Pit Bull Terrier - Joseph Colby, 1936 (P),(R)
Bandit, Dossier of a Dangerous Dog - Vicki Hearne

Fiction:
The Day of the Dog - George Barr McCutcheon - 1904 (Bulldog-type on cover)
Buster's Diaries - Roy Hattersley
The Staffordshire Terror - Patricia Beatty 1979
Dash, PI - Carole Lea Benjamin
The Bar Sinister - Richard Harding Davis 1903
DAWGS ! - Edited by Gray - Collection of dog stories, 1925 - contains the story White Monarch and the Gas-House Pup (about a dog fight).
The Dog Who Spoke With Gods - Jessup

Ok, that's it for APBT/AST stuff (I think!) I also have a list just as long w/training/breeding/showing, etc dog books!
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