What that dog did is 100% normal dog behavior. His owner had nothing to apologize for.
Normal for a dominant dog that hasn't been corrected and taught it's not acceptable to be aggressive towards (and bite) people.
What that dog did is 100% normal dog behavior. His owner had nothing to apologize for.
mnp13 wrote:dogcrazyjen wrote:This dog would have nailed you had you not moved. This dog was out in public, being petted by an unwarned stranger. This is acceptable?
Yup. It is. Why? because sometimes crap happens. I was the one who was almost injured and I take full responsibility for what happened. I was there I experienced what happened. The error was mine. Period.dogcrazyjen wrote:I think this man was being very irresponsible. You did not say he gave you a warning prior to touching the dog, and it would have been pertinant to the story if he had, so one has to assume he gave none.
funny, I was the one there and I didn't feel he was irresponsible. He was dealing with an adult (me) I'm sure it didn't occur to him to say "if you put your arm over his head and he makes a sound like he likes the ear rub that's really him communicating that you are challenging him". I didn't get a warning because he probably figured that my brain cells were in the 'on' position. I wasn't warned about the possibility of him biting because who in their right mind thinks someone is going to challenge their dog and ignore the warnings that dog gives?
What that dog did is 100% normal dog behavior. His owner had nothing to apologize for.
msvette2u wrote:What that dog did is 100% normal dog behavior. His owner had nothing to apologize for.
Normal for a dominant dog that hasn't been corrected and taught it's not acceptable to be aggressive towards (and bite) people.
Maryellen wrote:because now people are sue happy.. when i was young there were alot of dogs in the neighborhood we had to stay away from... i got bit by my best friends collie twice in 2 months.. both were my fault.. nothing happened to the dog, i went to the dr, got meds, and came home.. never blamed the dog....
Maryellen wrote:because now people are sue happy.. when i was young there were alot of dogs in the neighborhood we had to stay away from... i got bit by my best friends collie twice in 2 months.. both were my fault.. nothing happened to the dog, i went to the dr, got meds, and came home.. never blamed the dog....
Sue wrote:Maryellen wrote:because now people are sue happy.. when i was young there were alot of dogs in the neighborhood we had to stay away from... i got bit by my best friends collie twice in 2 months.. both were my fault.. nothing happened to the dog, i went to the dr, got meds, and came home.. never blamed the dog....
I got bit in the face by my neighbors GSD... I was 6 or 7. Never should have put my face there - all my fault. I had a dog that bit my neighbor in the fanny... as he was running across our driveway to go home. Neither dog was aggressive and both lived long and happy lives without another incident - and neither dog deserved to die because of what they did.
a-bull wrote:I bet your parents taught you all about how to behave around dogs, too, huh?? Not many parents now-a-days do---instead your dog should never, ever act like anything other than a bunny rabbit or it should be put to sleep.
Sue wrote:a-bull wrote:I bet your parents taught you all about how to behave around dogs, too, huh?? Not many parents now-a-days do---instead your dog should never, ever act like anything other than a bunny rabbit or it should be put to sleep.
Funny, but I don't remember really. I just always had some kind of pet and I always LOVED animals, so I don't know if was nature or nurture
Sue wrote:a-bull wrote:I bet your parents taught you all about how to behave around dogs, too, huh?? Not many parents now-a-days do---instead your dog should never, ever act like anything other than a bunny rabbit or it should be put to sleep.
Funny, but I don't remember really. I just always had some kind of pet and I always LOVED animals, so I don't know if was nature or nurture
dogcrazyjen wrote:I meant the owner did not warn you the dog would bite. I thought that was fairly clear. Obviously the point of your story was the dog did warn you and you missed it.
funny, I was the one there and I didn't feel he was irresponsible. He was dealing with an adult (me) I'm sure it didn't occur to him to say "if you put your arm over his head and he makes a sound like he likes the ear rub that's really him communicating that you are challenging him". I didn't get a warning because he probably figured that my brain cells were in the 'on' position. I wasn't warned about the possibility of him biting because who in their right mind thinks someone is going to challenge their dog and ignore the warnings that dog gives?
dogcrazyjen wrote:To me it is not acceptable to have biting dogs.
dogcrazyjen wrote:You feel biting is acceptable. Blame the 'victim', not matter what. You feel your dogs are allowed to bite you in play, that it shows drive.
dogcrazyjen wrote:That dogs will naturally show their dominance to humans, and that is normal and acceptable dog behavior.
Maximus wrote:First, there are shelters and there are rescues. Two very different things. And in the best case, I would hope the best rescues are "no-kill," considering they're (presumably) pulling stable, adoptable dogs from shelters after evaluating them, for one thing.
Maximus wrote:And I'm pretty sure the very term "no-kill" is a misnomer. Because shelters can euthanize dogs that don't pass, for example, a behavioral temperament test and NOT count that as a "kill." That's one reason Sternberg's Assess-a-Pet TT is so freaking controversial. It's given shelters across the country this very questionable standard at which to measure all dogs and given them an "out" in killing them without having to admit to it or tarnish their "no-kill" name.
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