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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 3rd, 2006, 10:13 pm

I have found a new rescue to help out with and I completely love them. Today was my first day helping them out and it was an adoptathon at the zoo. Hundreds of dogs and cats. I was assigned to a 40 lb female pit bull named Domino (she's black and white). Extremely people-friendly, but ridiculously dog-aggressive. I ended up keeping her about 150 ft away from the main area because she kept completely going postal - barking and snarling and lunging. The strange thing is that she is being fostered with two other dogs right now and completely does well with them. The only thing we could think was that either a - she had never been socialized on leash, or b - just too many dogs around. She was so phenomenal with people though - giving kisses to everybody, especially children. She's a beautiful little girl, but she definitely didn't represent the breed well today. *sigh* Only one application for her, and the guy put down he wanted her for protection. Needless to say, he'll be rejected. It was a good experience for me though as I'd never handled a dog-aggressive dog before. I think I did well - I was able to get her from about 300 ft away to about 150 ft away. And when she acted up I got her to focus on me by making her sit and bribing her with treats. :|

I really liked this rescue though - it's fairly new, and they have lots of plans to get out in the community and really do some education, so I'm very excited to be a part of that.
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 3rd, 2006, 10:22 pm

Forgot to add - only bad part of the day was that a kid got attacked by a shepherd mix. Not sure of the details, but it sounds like the dog had a rawhide and the kid came running up. Guess the kid had to be rushed to the hospital and the dog was taken IMMEDIATELY to the shelter and put down. Sad that it happened. I'm waiting to see if it's going to be in the news.

And if anyone cares, here's the link to the rescue: http://www.rescueabull.org/
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Postby cheekymunkee » June 3rd, 2006, 10:32 pm

Oh that is terribly sad. I hope the little boy will be ok. Poor dog was probably stressed with all the other dogs about, they most likely ALL were. I'm glad you are getting involved though!!
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 3rd, 2006, 10:36 pm

It is sad - it's one of those things that could have been so easily prevented. I'm not sure why somebody would give something to a dog that he could be possessive of in a situation like that, but also, the parents today were just letting their kids go running up to the dogs, shrieking with joy - that's scary for a dog (it's scary for me HOLDING the dog!!!), so I'm sure that didn't help either.

I really am excited about volunteering with them. We're going to go into inner-city schools with a couple "stereotypical" pits that are therapy dogs to help educate kids. And she temperament tests the pits in shelters, so I'm hoping to be able to go with her to that and learn some stuff.
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Postby Fear_the_Sheeple » June 3rd, 2006, 10:55 pm

Glad volunteering is working out for you! Sounds like a great rescue. :)
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Postby mnp13 » June 4th, 2006, 2:21 pm

pitbullmamaliz wrote:Forgot to add - only bad part of the day was that a kid got attacked by a shepherd mix. Not sure of the details, but it sounds like the dog had a rawhide and the kid came running up. Guess the kid had to be rushed to the hospital and the dog was taken IMMEDIATELY to the shelter and put down. Sad that it happened. I'm waiting to see if it's going to be in the news.

And if anyone cares, here's the link to the rescue: http://www.rescueabull.org/


Ok, that is just STUPID. The person who gave that dog a rawhide in a situation like that needs a smack. I don't care what the breed was or what the dog's history is. Sky high stress + dog + toy = disaster waiting to happen. Unfortunately this disaster didn't wait. I hope the child is ok. Putting the dog down was the right decision.

A question about the Pit Bull though, did he want her for protection like a guard dog or protection like PP training?
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Postby SisMorphine » June 4th, 2006, 3:04 pm

mnp13 wrote:A question about the Pit Bull though, did he want her for protection like a guard dog or protection like PP training?

I thought the same thing at first, but then remembered that there are many rescue groups around here that won't adopt to people who intend to do any bitework with the dog. It's like the Greyhound rescues that won't adopt out to people who use crates . . . stupidity.
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 4th, 2006, 4:02 pm

Oh he definitely wanted her for a guard dog - I doubt he'd ever heard of PP. He wasn't the most, um, intelligent guy I'd ever seen.
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Postby a-bull » June 4th, 2006, 6:31 pm

How unfortunate that a "rescue" would set-up a dog in a situation to fail. Many, many dogs are possessive with rawhide, and particularly given that the dog was in an unfamiliar place with unfamiliar people . . .

Hope the rescue doesn't get sued.
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Postby a-bull » June 4th, 2006, 6:33 pm

. . . and that's a terrible ending for the dog, and particularly for the child. :(
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Postby Maryellen » June 4th, 2006, 6:59 pm

that is great!!! that poor child..

in reading about the rescue, i noticed they printed:

We are a no-kill rescue and so the dogs that are entered into our foster care system and not found "forever" homes, live out their days in the loving homes of our volunteers.



i personally dont like no kill rescues, but that is just me.. if the shep mix was part of their rescue, then kudos to them for euthing the dog for attacking the child. stupid of them to give a dog a rawhide though..
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Postby mnp13 » June 4th, 2006, 7:11 pm

Maryellen wrote:that is great!!! that poor child..

in reading about the rescue, i noticed they printed:

We are a no-kill rescue and so the dogs that are entered into our foster care system and not found "forever" homes, live out their days in the loving homes of our volunteers.



If that's the case I would never ever foster for that rescue. If they can't adopt out a dog the foster is stuck with it for life? What if it is not adoptable because of temperament issues that surface after the dog is in foster care? there is a point where it becomes apparent that the dog is just not the greatest candidate for adoption... do all rescues keep dogs in foster care indefinately?
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Postby Maryellen » June 4th, 2006, 7:16 pm

no kill rescues are the worst, they will keep a dog that is not adoptable either in a foster home or a boarding kennel.. they dont believe in euthing a dog. , which i am surprised if the shep mix came from that rescue that they euthed... but if they do just bully rescue then the shep was from another rescue.. its better to euth a dog then have it live out its days in a boarding or vets kennel. that is just cruel in my eyes..

the foster homes are giving up space for sound dogs to house a unsound dog. not good in my book.
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Postby Sue » June 4th, 2006, 7:32 pm

Many "no-kill" shelters have that designation, never making the public aware of policies that they have in place. One rescue I used to help out with, has a dangerous animal policy and they have PTS quite a few dogs that they deemed unadoptable. Although, I must say sometimes their reasoning is far fetched. It's unfair to make a sweeping generalization that all no kills will keep unadoptable dogs and are "the worst". Of course there are ones that do, but not all. And I would hope that if a person decided to foster for that org, they would understand that the dog would be with them until placed, however long it may be. In that case, I doubt the person would feel they were stuck with the dog.

I feel badly for the child, but I also feel badly for the dog that was put in that situation and had to pay with it's life for the rescues mistake and the parents mistake.
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Postby Marinepits » June 4th, 2006, 7:35 pm

Sue wrote:I feel badly for the child, but I also feel badly for the dog that was put in that situation and had to pay with it's life for the rescues mistake and the parents mistake.


Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me, too.
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Postby pitbullmamaliz » June 4th, 2006, 8:40 pm

The dog did not come from our rescue as we only do bullies.
In regards to the fostering/placement, I know that she does temperament tests, and actually only has a handful of foster homes right now. She's desperately looking for more, but I can't help - one dog and three cats, no room for more!
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Postby a-bull » June 4th, 2006, 10:11 pm

Yeah, I was a little confused for a minute there because I only saw bullies on the website you gave the link for.

Well, whew . . . that's a good thing.

Good luck with the rescue you're helping---so great of you to help. :clap: (Some pretty sad stories on that website). :(
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Postby SisMorphine » June 5th, 2006, 8:00 am

One of the local no-kills up here will ship off dogs to kill shelters to be PTS for behavioral problems. No, they don't tell the public that, but I'm sure that's what they'd have to say if someone asked (my friend used to work at the shelter that they would ship their unadoptables off too, which is how I know).

But if it isn't a behavioral or health issue, the dog is welcome to stay at the no-kill as long as is necessary for it to find a home. That shelter has a really high turnover rate.
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Postby mnp13 » June 5th, 2006, 10:44 am

pitbullmamaliz wrote:I know that she does temperament tests, and actually only has a handful of foster homes right now. She's desperately looking for more


Well it just might be a problem with the "keep it forever" policy that she places on all of the fosters?
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Postby a-bull » June 5th, 2006, 10:48 am

I'd be prepared to keep it forever if I offered to foster, but maybe most people aren't? I just think that's the chance you take fostering . . . no? :|
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