babyreba wrote:it means it's a nice ad. that's all.
sometimes an ad is just an ad. and a comment is just a comment.
it's a nice ad.
Your video tells me about the ideal protection GSD. However, it does not talk about the idea of using only sleevework-and I definately do not think Pits should be doing PP work off-sleeve.
This example is also misleading, as the dog will only 'protect' IF the owner can give the command, and IF the dog is trained off-sleeve.
If there is no sleeve, and the dog was sleeve trained, it would likely circle to find the sleeve and do nothing( that was shown on another of your videos).
If she was unable to use her voice, then would the dog know to attack?
And if you gave the dog the choice to attack when it percieved danger, then how could you ever trust it around kids, since they tend to play as if they are attacking each other.
Sorry but this video to me was using a nice emotive song, and some set up shots, to create a commercial based on some solid and some questionable info. It really did not tell me anything i did not already understand about PP training.
DemoDick wrote: statement to counter some of the bad information out there regarding protection dogs. They don't have to be locked away from people, can be safe and stable family members and can accompany you out in public without a problem.
Chris Fraize wrote:Knowledge replaces fear!
SisMorphine wrote:[Until I joined this board I thought of all Personal Protection trained dogs to be like the police K9 dog that used to come into the first vet's office I worked at: always in a leather muzzle just in case, rushed from the car to the exam room after the waiting room had been cleared, no one invited to pet the dog. I truly thought that THAT was the way a dog who did bitework acted, dangerous to everyone but his handler.
katiek0417 wrote:I don't know that many police K9's, but the majority of the ones I know are friendly. They live in the handler's house, sleep in the handler's bed, play with the kids...
Many are even used as therapy dogs upon retirement from police work.
Again, this does not describe every police K9, but at least a majority that I know.
These are my opinions and plenty will disagree.
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Your video tells me about the ideal protection GSD. However, it does not talk about the idea of using only sleevework-and I definately do not think Pits should be doing PP work off-sleeve.
I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that you don't like to see Pits doing bitework on anything but a schutzhund style sleeve? If so, why? Do you include suit work as well?
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This example is also misleading, as the dog will only 'protect' IF the owner can give the command, and IF the dog is trained off-sleeve.
I don't think anything in the video said that the dog will ONLY engage on command. And again, I don't know what you mean when you write "off sleeve". That could mean any number of things.
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If there is no sleeve, and the dog was sleeve trained, it would likely circle to find the sleeve and do nothing( that was shown on another of your videos).
This depends on the dog and training. Some dogs will happily bite a trial sleeve and ignore a bare arm...some will ignore the sleeve to take a live bite. A true Personal Protection dog will ignore equipment and go for the live bite.
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If she was unable to use her voice, then would the dog know to attack?
A properly trained PP dog has to have some "decision making" ability. The dog has to be able to think for itself. It cannot function like a robot. If someone grabbed Megan in a threatening manner and covered her mouth so she could give no commands, I'm pretty sure he'd get bit anyway.
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And if you gave the dog the choice to attack when it percieved danger, then how could you ever trust it around kids, since they tend to play as if they are attacking each other.
A dog that can't distinguish between a real threat and kids playing is not cut out for PP. Again, the dog has to be able to think and react. My dog will take suit, sleeve, and live bites all day, but if you give his tug toy to a child he turns his own intensity down about 90% so as to avoid hurting the kid. He'll still play, but he won't pull them over. It's like watching a pro boxer spar with a rookie; you know the pro could trash the kid, but he knows it's not appropriate.
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Sorry but this video to me was using a nice emotive song, and some set up shots, to create a commercial based on some solid and some questionable info. It really did not tell me anything i did not already understand about PP training.
I think the video makes a statement to counter some of the bad information out there regarding protection dogs. They don't have to be locked away from people, can be safe and stable family members and can accompany you out in public without a problem.
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Your video tells me about the ideal protection GSD. However, it does not talk about the idea of using only sleevework-and I definately do not think Pits should be doing PP work off-sleeve.
I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that you don't like to see Pits doing bitework on anything but a schutzhund style sleeve? If so, why? Do you include suit work as well?
Chris has even said that many of his dogs will NOT go after someone without a bite suit on even if commanded, and one of his videos shows a dog circling the decoy looking for the sleeve.
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