SpiritFngrz wrote:Is it possible she nipped because the trainer got in the way and Jaida was re-directing at her because she wanted those other dogs? That could be way off, I'm just thinking- I wonder if this would've happened if she wasn't so driven by the other dogs being in the room.
anissa wrote:mnp13 wrote:How do you know she's "human aggressive"? She jumped up and nipped the trainer who bent over her. She didn't lunge at her snarling and snapping.
I don't know if she is human aggresive. I havent labeled her as so either, so please dont put words in my mouth. I am more concerned that she MIGHT be.. and finding a way to deal with it.. than stamping her as such and getting rid of her.
And you may want to reread what I originally posted.. She DID lunge up at her (feet off the ground), growled and snapped right onto her!
The trainer realized that we were having some problems and came over to speak to us, as soon as she went to acknowledge Jaida.. Jaida lunged up and BIT HER! There wasnt blood, and the trainer took immediate control of her.. but it scared the poop out of me, and Im sure everyone else in that room.
mnp13 wrote:The trainer that Jaida nipped didn't deal with the issue past telling you to sit in the corner... so you should probably seek out someone who knows how to deal with things like this.
pitbullmamaliz wrote:As a representative of the rescue that assisted Anissa and Jaida, I feel it necessary to defend us - we NEVER push dogs on people or lie about their behaviors to make them seem better. Anissa can vouch for the fact that we told her straight up that Jaida is dog-aggressive while on leash, plays roughly/loudly, and needs some training. Jaida was juggled from home to home to home during fostering mainly due to rescue politics, which I feel is a sad state of affairs. I handled Jaida at an adopt-a-thon at a very busy zoo all day long, and yeah, she couldn't be around the other dogs, but she wasn't phased at all by kids/people coming running up to her and putting their hands all over her. I think last night happened simply because it was a new environment, Anissa was probably a little tense due to Jaida barking/lunging at the dogs, and that transmitted down the leash so the trainer was just kind of the final straw. I agree with Anissa and everybody else that it's time to find a new trainer.
I know the first response to a dog biting is 'it needs to be put down'.. but Im not sure if I can live with that guilt.
Romanwild wrote:That the hard truth. It's not just HA dogs though. I feel terrible this week because I couldn't find a foster home for a dog that attack a calf at the local fair.
He wasn't HA but obviosly AA. Our local shelter was over capacity and had 3 non AG Pit Bulls ready to go. I had three days to get a foster and couldn't find one. They have to put him down because the don't adopt out AG Pit Bulls. What are you going to do. That's the reality. I feel like I stuck the needle in him.
Romanwild wrote:I only did public classes once then decided I would be better off in a all pit bull class for the most part.
Big_Ant wrote:I know the first response to a dog biting is 'it needs to be put down'.. but Im not sure if I can live with that guilt.
Guilt has nothing to do with it. If you own this breed, IMO, you have to be able to do this if necessary. You mention not being able to live with the guilt. I'm not sure I could live with another dog biting someone because of an irresponsible (phrasing, not directed at you) owner.
I have zero tolerance for Human Aggression (again, not diagnosing this as human aggro, far too few details), and would have no problem putting a dog down if it was necessary. It's a 'necessary evil' when owning this breed, IMHO.
julie k wrote:BigDogBuford wrote:
"I agree with this. Most experienced trainers aren't even fazed by a nip. They're not ususally happy about it, but will certainly give you some behavior modification tequiques, or work a bit more with the dog to see exactly what type of aggression it was and go from there."
Most experienced dog trainers learn how to avoid being bitten, unless they are wearing a sleeve. That was not a Schutzhund slam, guys, I admire and support those of you who do.
Julie K, fingers and toes intact
and as far as 'biting' the trainer.. had the damn trainer had enough sense not to just walk up to a dog unexpectedly, we would have walked out of there proud as hell.
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