I'd post the article here, but there are lots of videos that are embedded and go along with the text.
http://www.askdryin.com/dominance.php?a ... alphamovie
Fuego wrote:Thank you!
A very good und easily understandable article.
Luckily here in Germany Yin's methods are more common than the old school methods but sadly old school still exists. The Clicker method and positive methods are very common but often used in a wrong way or misunderstood. But that's way better than the methods in the CM videos. I'm happy we don't have this CM show here as there are still too many people who don't know anything about dogs and are too lazy to go the longer way instead of using the short and easy way of punishment like those in that show.
Does Yin have a TV show too?
Fuego wrote:Thank you!
A very good und easily understandable article.
Luckily here in Germany Yin's methods are more common than the old school methods but sadly old school still exists. The Clicker method and positive methods are very common but often used in a wrong way or misunderstood. But that's way better than the methods in the CM videos. I'm happy we don't have this CM show here as there are still too many people who don't know anything about dogs and are too lazy to go the longer way instead of using the short and easy way of punishment like those in that show.
Does Yin have a TV show too?
DemoDick wrote:Fuego wrote:Thank you!
A very good und easily understandable article.
Luckily here in Germany Yin's methods are more common than the old school methods but sadly old school still exists. The Clicker method and positive methods are very common but often used in a wrong way or misunderstood. But that's way better than the methods in the CM videos. I'm happy we don't have this CM show here as there are still too many people who don't know anything about dogs and are too lazy to go the longer way instead of using the short and easy way of punishment like those in that show.
Does Yin have a TV show too?
No. Using punishment appropriately is not lazy or quicker than reinforcement, and reinforcement done properly is not slower. You are wrong on both counts.
The fastest and most effective results utilize both when appropriate.
Demo Dick
Fuego wrote:I think you are right when a completely new behaviour should be learned. But I disagree if it's about changing an existing undesired behaviour.
I have the belief based on experience (not by doing I only use positive reinforcement) that force is faster in results but less constant and it only works as long as the owner or punishment tool is around. Example: dog stelas from table. One or two experiences with the electric shock or spray collar and the dog will not steal again. I'm sure the positive method would take longer. But I'm also sure the punishment is connected to that special situation let's say "don't steal meat from that table" and may not work if it's another table or another food.
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