pitbullmamaliz wrote:Yeah, I'd never trust Inara out of sight with a trainer.
Are you guys contemplating starting up a board/train program?
SisMorphine wrote:I was forced to do board and trains while I worked at the last place. Total smurfing rip off, IMHO. $375 plus the cost of boarding. Your $375 bought you five 1 hour sessions and a follow up hour upon pick up.
I seriously despise board and trains. I think they're useless and lazy.
Cult37 wrote:I know I am fairly new around here but my basic instinct is that board and trains are not good ideas. In the long run most of them realize that any training with a dog takes time and ind in order to get results in a limited time frame the most effective and humane training techniques are thrown to the wayside... positive reinforcement isn't fast enough... There is a guy named leerburg that I have read a few articles and whatnot that he wrote who I think you would be interested in finding before starting up... I think he too shares the opinion that the only way to get fully effective results out of limited time is to use yank and crank methods ...
hugapitbull wrote:We had Trouble board and trained when she was about 8-9 months old. We were going to be in Alaska for 2 weeks and thought it would be the perfect opportunity to get her trained.
It was our first attempt at training a pet, and I would never do it that way again. To this day I have no doubt she would do anything the trainer wanted, but she never had the same dedication (or maybe fear?) to performing the same for us.
She knows her commands, and but will think about whether or not she wants to respond. You can see that split second of hesitation even when she is working well for one of us.
IMO it is much better for the owner to be the one who works with the dog.
I wanted to address this. In the working/sport dog world, trained dogs get sold and bought every day. And the new owner goes on to show and compete with that dog successfully, even at high levels. I bought Cy as a trained dog. I used NO corrections the first 2 weeks I had him (you don't want to use corrections on a dog like that when you haven't bonded with him yet because it can be dangerous)...but I did everything motivationally, and when I said "au pied" he came into a perfect heel position and looked up at me - he wasn't even wearing a leash and a collar at the time!
Another example, I certainly did no training with Jue or Asja (they're Greg's dogs, and he did every ounce of training with him)...but if I'm out with Jue (I use him as the example because I tend to have to use more obedience with him on walks since he's not friendly), and I tell him "fulligan" (his heel command) he immediately starts attention heeling with me, prance and all (I sometimes wish he didn't do the prance b/c I usually end up tripping over him)....
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