SisMorphine wrote:I think because NILIF is us meeting them in the middle of understanding.
Another thing I've been thinking about is that my earliest experiences in training were based around pack-type behavioral stuff: always eat before your dog, never let your dog go out the door ahead of you, etc etc etc. And it was always said that "for some dogs these things don't matter" and I never really looked into it. But now thinking about it regarding pack drive, whether it is little to none, makes sense.
I DO think that pack behavior is important, and I DO think that we can take some of what the dogs do and some of what we do and marry it. I just don't think that dogs see humans as their pack, the way they would see a room full of dogs.
I'm just now reading these and catching up...and I'm gonna agree with you, Sis.
My dogs all play well with the other species in the house...esp. the cats and the rabbits...but they don't see them as part of their pack. Inara will rush over if a new dog gets too pushy with Pippin or Fry, but it's the same way she reacts if another dog goes near her precious trash can or a favorite toy. It's different when a new dog messes with a member of the dog pack...then they'll all come rushing over to help out.
I don't know if it's a breed thing, I tend to think of it as an individual thing...especially the way they demonstrate the pack behavior. Ripley is an Aussie like the others...but is much more aloof. But he's the head man in charge, and will poke his nose into anyone's business if they're new to the house. My guys will all lay together to sleep, hang out together when they're loose somewhere, and will check in with each other a lot...except for Sawyer who just hangs with John mostly. He's not as interested in being part of the dog pack...and is the most snarky within the pack of dogs.
I think the rabbit pee'd under the couch...so I'm off to figure out where. Pee-yeww!