Trying to find my foster's forever home! (CT)

Postby amazincc » May 8th, 2008, 12:47 pm

LMAO :highfive:
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Postby cheekymunkee » May 8th, 2008, 12:47 pm

Yeah, if whores weren't welcome here, we wouldnt have as many members! :wink: NO OFFENSE TO ANY WHORES OUT THERE!
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Postby katiek0417 » May 8th, 2008, 1:03 pm

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Postby BigDogBuford » May 8th, 2008, 1:52 pm

rescuedogmama wrote:
Wyldmoonwoman wrote:but you have him now and need to work with him or make the decision to PTS.


BigDogBuford wrote:Are you comfortable placing a dog that has a bite history? IMHO, that is not a responsible thing to do. It was a bite that broke skin and caused serious bruising. I wouldn't even dream of placing a dog with that kind of history.


It sure sounded like people are suggesting I put him down. I'm so confused. I've got people saying he's fine, people saying he needs to be put down. I am so frustrated. :|


What I was getting at is rather than rushing to 'find your foster his forever home' you actually put the work into him that he needs to even be considered for adoption. Personally I would never recommend euthanasia over the internet without meeting the dog in person. I think it's time to stop being 'lazy' (in the context that you used it) and get off your hiney and start some serious work with this pup. Otherwise you're just warehousing a dog who's behavior is probably going to get nothing but worse. He's not 'fine' but he's probably fixable.

I personally wouldn't place him, but that's just me. I also wouldn't euth him unless after a ton of work his behavior kept getting worse. I'd plan on keeping him, working with him and resign myself to the fact that I'd aquired another dog. :|
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Postby BigDogBuford » May 8th, 2008, 1:59 pm

cheekymunkee wrote:Yeah, if whores weren't welcome here, we wouldnt have as many members! :wink: NO OFFENSE TO ANY WHORES OUT THERE!



I'm offended.
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Postby cheekymunkee » May 8th, 2008, 2:44 pm

BigDogBuford wrote:
cheekymunkee wrote:Yeah, if whores weren't welcome here, we wouldnt have as many members! :wink: NO OFFENSE TO ANY WHORES OUT THERE!



I'm offended.


Yeah, me too! :D
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Postby maberi » May 8th, 2008, 3:02 pm

amazincc wrote:All cheap whores and nippy pups are welcome here. :mrgreen:



I wonder if we can get Michelle to put this on the business cards. I certainly would have signed up quicker had I know this ahead of time
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Postby mnp13 » May 8th, 2008, 3:28 pm

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rescuedogmama wrote:
Wyldmoonwoman wrote:but you have him now and need to work with him or make the decision to PTS.


BigDogBuford wrote:Are you comfortable placing a dog that has a bite history? IMHO, that is not a responsible thing to do. It was a bite that broke skin and caused serious bruising. I wouldn't even dream of placing a dog with that kind of history.


It sure sounded like people are suggesting I put him down. I'm so confused. I've got people saying he's fine, people saying he needs to be put down. I am so frustrated. :|


Well, from your own posts, I don't think he's "fine" by any stretch of the imagination. Just from what you've posted, he needs solid management, a serious attitude adjustment and a lot of structure. Until you have him completely under control and reliable, you can not ethically adopt him out to anyone other than a trainer or very very experienced person without children in the home or in the general social circle.

Do I think he "needs" to be put down? No. But like Kat said, you can't continue to be "lazy" with him either. He needs work every single day and everyone in his life needs to be 100% on board with it. He has proved that he will put his teeth on you in anger. I have a snappy, rude jackass but he has never done that in anger and, to me, there is a major difference.

It took many months of hard work to get Riggs (mostly) straightened out and the work is ongoing and will be for the rest of his life. I wouldn't dream of rehoming him and it is actually in my will that he is to be put down if something happens to me and one of two named people do not want to take him perminantly.

You may need to accept that he is in his forever home - yours. If you don't or can't make that commitment, then yes, euthansia may be your alternative. Passing him on is probably not.
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Postby Marinepits » May 8th, 2008, 3:51 pm

mnp13 wrote:Well, from your own posts, I don't think he's "fine" by any stretch of the imagination. Just from what you've posted, he needs solid management, a serious attitude adjustment and a lot of structure. Until you have him completely under control and reliable, you can not ethically adopt him out to anyone other than a trainer or very very experienced person without children in the home or in the general social circle.

Do I think he "needs" to be put down? No. But like Kat said, you can't continue to be "lazy" with him either. He needs work every single day and everyone in his life needs to be 100% on board with it. He has proved that he will put his teeth on you in anger. I have a snappy, rude jackass but he has never done that in anger and, to me, there is a major difference.

It took many months of hard work to get Riggs (mostly) straightened out and the work is ongoing and will be for the rest of his life. I wouldn't dream of rehoming him and it is actually in my will that he is to be put down if something happens to me and one of two named people do not want to take him perminantly.

You may need to accept that he is in his forever home - yours. If you don't or can't make that commitment, then yes, euthansia may be your alternative. Passing him on is probably not.


I agree 1,000% with Michelle.

I also have one of those "difficult" dogs and we've worked HARD with him for three years now. We knew long ago that he'd probably never be "right" enough to adopt out, but we made the committment to him when we pulled him from a shelter as a pup. His only options at this point are to either live with us or be euthanized because he is NOT an adoptable dog -- he has too many issues.
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Postby amazincc » May 9th, 2008, 2:24 am

No, Harvey isn't "fine", but he IS workable/trainable.

Thank you for being very honest in your posts... most people wouldn't have been as forthcoming, and might have tried to pawn this pup off on someone completely unprepared.
You are doing Harv a HUGE favor by not sugarcoating his issues, since any potential adopter will know exactly what he/she will be getting into - and it will save Harvey from being bounced around a lot because there are no "unpleasant surprises". :wink: :)
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Postby Wyldmoonwoman » May 9th, 2008, 8:10 am

I also have an unadoptable pit bull...I post cute pictures of her, I love her with all my heart, but she was not socialized as a pup, is dog agressive, and reactive to certain men...it took years of training to teach her how to control herself and even though she is 100% fine at home, out in public in strange situations it is a completely different story until she reaches a level of comfort by going back again and again...it is not fair to ask someone to assume the responsibility of the level of supervision that she requires in those situations and quite frankly, I don't think the average person should have to address behavior problems in a rescue pit bull...it is the rescuers responsibility to make sure that the dog is suitable for placement in a home and the best of the best get adopted...it is also the rescuers responsibility to be available for the life of the dog to offer support with training after the dog is adopted...adopting out pit bulls is serious business, the last thing you want is for your rescue dog to wind up on the cover of the newspaper for another pit bull incident.

I wish you the best and echo the training sentiments expressed here...I apologise mentioning making the decision to PTS, I never meant to upset you and can come across as bitchy, it was based on your lack of time to train this dog, and quite frankly, if you do not want to put the effort into a dog with issues to guarantee a successful placement, humane euthanization is the option that I would recommend before dumping the dog on a family that is unprepared to deal with behavior issues.
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Postby rescuedogmama » May 13th, 2008, 1:52 pm

Harvey is going to a fellow rescuer in MA. She will be working very hard at socializing him and training him. She also plans on bringing him to work several days a week to help him work on manners. She will then put him up for adoption again, that is, if she doesn't adopt him herself. She's a known foster failure. :D

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Postby Marinepits » May 13th, 2008, 2:02 pm

Best of luck to Harvey!
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Postby Jenn » May 13th, 2008, 2:51 pm

Ditto, good luck to him!
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